From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>
To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2021 11:07:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <19643.1617646039@hop.toad.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrinu8npadwhuGANWq8_GVc4e7V7dGqcXimWzQ6HjtEXg@mail.gmail.com>
> > There simply are no venues for "engineering" papers or
> > presentations any more...
>
> It's the main reason I've not had a USENIX paper published in about 15
> years...
I'm an engineer, not an academic. The only time I submitted a paper to
USENIX, it was about my 1988 project with CSRG to convert the BSD
distribution to using GCC rather than PCC. The project itself was an
interesting tour through C language history, turning up ancient code
that used ints as pointers, for example. The paper was rejected by the
program committee, on the objection that "ports aren't research". So
the pro-academic, anti-engineering mindset was already in place back
then.
Though I was disappointed to have the paper rejected, at the time I
thought (like an engineer!) that the reason for rejection was a bit of a
positive comment -- "Our software is becoming portable enough that
it doesn't take imagination, genius, or innovation to make it run on a
completely different architecture or toolchain."
(I posted the 1988 draft paper to this TUHS list in May 2020, in a thread
with the subject "History of popularity of C".)
John
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2021-04-01 15:12 ` Warner Losh
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2021-04-01 15:33 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-01 16:14 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-01 16:26 ` John Cowan
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2021-04-01 16:27 ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-04-02 2:16 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-02 3:52 ` Wesley Parish
2021-04-02 5:26 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-02 16:03 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-02 16:11 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-02 16:39 ` Heinz Lycklama
2021-04-02 17:14 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-02 17:17 ` [TUHS] AIX repeat [was " Charles H Sauer
2021-04-03 1:24 ` [TUHS] " Wesley Parish
2021-04-04 2:46 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-04 2:50 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-04 5:29 ` [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference (was: Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM) G. Branden Robinson
2021-04-04 18:22 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 20:54 ` Richard Salz
2021-04-04 21:11 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 0:36 ` John Cowan
2021-04-05 2:19 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-05 18:07 ` John Gilmore [this message]
2021-04-05 19:30 ` [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference Clem Cole
2021-04-05 20:34 ` Richard Salz
2021-04-05 20:42 ` William Cheswick
2021-04-06 4:37 ` Ed Bradford
2021-04-05 20:39 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-05 21:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-05 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2021-04-06 15:39 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-06 5:49 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-05 7:48 ` [TUHS] Whither Usenix [was How To Kill A Technical Conference] arnold
2021-04-05 14:05 ` [TUHS] How to Kill a Technical Conference (was: Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM) Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-05 22:26 ` David Arnold
2021-04-04 23:30 ` A. P. Garcia
2021-04-04 3:41 ` [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM Gregg Levine
2021-04-04 3:57 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-02 5:41 ` David Arnold
2021-04-02 6:09 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-04-02 7:00 ` arnold
2021-04-02 9:53 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-04-02 10:26 ` arnold
2021-04-02 14:02 ` Josh Good
2021-04-02 14:17 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-04-02 15:16 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-02 15:28 ` Fabio Scotoni
2021-04-03 1:50 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-03 1:55 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-03 2:23 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-03 2:34 ` Earl Baugh
2021-04-03 6:16 ` Dan Stromberg
2021-04-04 16:18 ` Tony Finch
2021-04-04 1:48 ` David Arnold
2021-04-04 2:23 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-04 8:55 ` Josh Good
2021-04-04 14:43 ` Michael Parson
2021-04-04 15:36 ` Warner Losh
2021-04-04 16:15 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 22:25 ` David Arnold
2021-04-04 22:55 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 2:30 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-04 23:00 ` Bakul Shah
2021-04-04 23:33 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-05 1:34 ` Bakul Shah
2021-04-05 2:58 ` Kenneth Goodwin
2021-04-05 12:35 ` John Cowan
2021-04-05 20:44 ` Kevin Bowling
2021-04-04 23:34 ` Josh Good
2021-04-04 20:08 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2021-04-04 21:00 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-04-04 21:40 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 21:54 ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2021-04-04 22:02 ` Jon Steinhart
2021-04-04 21:58 ` Clem Cole
2021-04-04 23:48 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-04-04 23:53 ` Larry McVoy
2021-04-07 5:15 ` Dan Stromberg
2021-04-05 13:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-04-07 1:52 ` Adam Thornton
2021-04-02 15:25 ` Josh Good
2021-04-03 3:10 ` John Cowan
2021-04-02 16:40 ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
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