From: David <david@kdbarto.org>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] man-page style
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2018 07:41:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7171EAB7-9557-4822-8FCE-5C7B1AD19B06@kdbarto.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PgaGSHbQuL+xuq0jpDGYVkTpG7chNcbWcVK-T=j80Sjg@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Nov 19, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
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> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:11 PM Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com <mailto:jon@fourwinds.com>> wrote:
> Sort of like Americans expecting others to speak to them in English when they travel instead of understanding that they're in a different environment and it makes more sense to learn the culture as it's unlikely that everybody is gonna change just for you.
> Amen, brother Jon, can we get another Amen..
>
As a recent traveller overseas, Amen to that.
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> What started this whole thread was Doug's comment about how succinct and to the point man was. If was a fine interface for >>UNIX<<. Man (using roff) was what people expect. It's not about better or worse -- it worked and worked well.
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> Clem
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The problem, as we have all converged on, is that writing well is hard. Writing concise, targeted prose, is even harder. So we get bloat in man pages or the info system which is just (IMHO) more bloat because people don’t want to spend the time writing well.
David
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2018-11-16 0:03 Doug McIlroy
2018-11-16 4:50 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 5:32 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 6:03 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 15:33 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 15:37 ` WIlliam Cheswick
2018-11-16 15:48 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-16 18:47 ` Tom Manos
2018-11-17 3:29 ` Andy Kosela
2018-11-16 16:55 ` Paul Winalski
2018-11-16 17:13 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 17:31 ` Paul Winalski
2018-11-16 20:45 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 17:33 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 17:36 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 20:50 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 17:39 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-16 18:57 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-16 17:29 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-16 20:52 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 20:55 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 20:56 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 21:05 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 21:09 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-11-19 2:53 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 5:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-19 14:00 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 21:13 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-16 22:24 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-17 7:50 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-19 2:58 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 3:11 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-19 3:21 ` George Michaelson
2018-11-19 3:32 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-19 6:13 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-19 14:06 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 15:35 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-19 15:41 ` David [this message]
2018-11-19 17:06 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-19 17:39 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-19 18:40 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-19 22:08 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-20 6:52 ` arnold
2018-11-20 7:10 ` Otto Moerbeek
2018-11-28 0:09 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-28 0:36 ` G. Branden Robinson
2018-11-28 0:57 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-28 1:26 ` G. Branden Robinson
2018-11-29 7:25 ` arnold
2018-11-29 18:20 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-29 18:52 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-03 6:52 ` arnold
2018-11-19 13:08 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-11-19 13:20 ` Donald ODona
2018-11-19 7:05 ` Warner Losh
2018-11-19 7:20 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-19 16:48 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-28 0:10 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-29 18:48 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-29 19:13 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-29 19:28 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-29 19:32 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-29 19:36 ` Warner Losh
2018-11-29 19:40 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-30 14:55 ` WIlliam Cheswick
2018-11-30 15:05 ` [TUHS] Upas rewrite little language William Cheswick
2018-11-30 22:58 ` [TUHS] man-page style Dave Horsfall
2018-12-01 23:24 ` WIlliam Cheswick
2018-12-01 19:53 ` arnold
2018-12-01 21:26 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 7:22 ` [TUHS] Ease (was Re: man-page style) arnold
2018-12-02 7:32 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 17:22 ` arnold
2018-11-17 14:49 ` [TUHS] man-page style Michael Parson
2018-11-17 21:07 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 20:59 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 21:24 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-16 21:29 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 21:35 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-19 2:59 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 21:28 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-16 21:37 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-17 23:38 ` Ralph Corderoy
2018-11-18 0:31 ` Donald ODona
2018-11-18 3:00 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-19 3:09 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-18 5:01 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-18 5:29 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-18 0:40 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-16 21:12 ` emanuel stiebler
2018-11-16 18:00 ` Warner Losh
2018-11-16 18:16 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 19:35 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 20:50 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 22:25 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-17 0:25 ` Earl Baugh
2018-11-16 21:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-17 18:16 ` arnold
2018-11-17 18:14 ` arnold
2018-11-17 18:21 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-11-17 19:42 ` arnold
2018-11-17 20:02 ` Noel Hunt
2018-11-17 20:36 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-19 3:05 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 5:24 ` Anthony Martin
2018-11-16 1:43 Doug McIlroy
2018-11-16 3:18 ` Rob Pike
2018-11-16 3:38 ` Ken Thompson via TUHS
2018-11-16 3:50 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-16 13:29 ` Mike Markowski
2018-11-16 13:44 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-16 14:02 ` Harald Arnesen
2018-11-16 6:38 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 13:42 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-16 19:05 ` Nemo
2018-11-16 19:29 Noel Chiappa
2018-11-16 20:46 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-17 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2018-11-19 3:02 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 4:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-19 22:18 ` Michael Parson
2018-11-20 0:55 ` George Michaelson
2018-11-19 4:43 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-12-01 20:52 Norman Wilson
2018-12-01 21:34 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-01 23:09 Norman Wilson
2018-12-02 2:37 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 2:44 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-02 2:59 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 22:30 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-03 1:05 ` Warner Losh
2018-12-04 7:48 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-03 1:14 ` Bakul Shah
2018-12-03 1:30 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-04 21:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-04 21:34 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-04 22:11 ` Bakul Shah
2018-12-05 6:50 ` Pierre DAVID
2018-12-28 6:32 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-03 6:53 ` arnold
2018-12-02 3:24 Norman Wilson
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