From: Chet Ramey <chet.ramey@case.edu>
To: Toby Thain <toby@telegraphics.com.au>, tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] man-page style
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 22:09:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab10442a-9cd7-9161-54fe-1e48b4e1ce9a@case.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15c4f386-85b0-3b5f-625c-e3bda1506d96@telegraphics.com.au>
On 11/17/18 10:00 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2018-11-17 7:31 PM, Donald ODona wrote:
>>
>>
>> At 17 Nov 2018 23:39:45 +0000 (+00:00) from Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk>:
>>>
>>> From somewhere that didn't fit in well with Unix.
>> its based on TekInfo, whereas 'Tek' allegedly refers to the anachronistic Tape Editor and Corrector, developed by a student (Dan Murphy) in 1964 on a PDP-1 without a operation system. According to the myth TekInfo was build on top of the Tape Editor, and finally made it on *NIX.
>>
>> 'Info' really doesn't fit in well with Unix. Its alien and another failed approach. Almost all 'GNU' man pages state, that the 'full' documentation is only available via 'info'. In real 99% of all 'info' requests result in 'info' processing a man page.
>
>
> In many notable examples, that is not true: e.g. GNU make, bash or bison
> come quickly to mind. You can't fully learn how to use tools like these
> from the abbreviated man page; for one thing, the man page only mentions
> a fraction of the features.
The man page for bash includes everything. The info manual includes more
examples. I think other authors should follow that model, but I'm not going
to tell a volunteer what he has to do, and I understand how difficult it is
to maintain parallel content.
--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer
``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates
Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/
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2018-11-16 0:03 Doug McIlroy
2018-11-16 4:50 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 5:32 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 6:03 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 15:33 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 15:37 ` WIlliam Cheswick
2018-11-16 15:48 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-16 18:47 ` Tom Manos
2018-11-17 3:29 ` Andy Kosela
2018-11-16 16:55 ` Paul Winalski
2018-11-16 17:13 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 17:31 ` Paul Winalski
2018-11-16 20:45 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 17:33 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 17:36 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 20:50 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 17:39 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-16 18:57 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-16 17:29 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-16 20:52 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 20:55 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 20:56 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 21:05 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 21:09 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-11-19 2:53 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 5:59 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-19 14:00 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 21:13 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-16 22:24 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-17 7:50 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-19 2:58 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 3:11 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-19 3:21 ` George Michaelson
2018-11-19 3:32 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-19 6:13 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-19 14:06 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 15:35 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-19 15:41 ` David
2018-11-19 17:06 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-19 17:39 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-19 18:40 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-19 22:08 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-20 6:52 ` arnold
2018-11-20 7:10 ` Otto Moerbeek
2018-11-28 0:09 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-28 0:36 ` G. Branden Robinson
2018-11-28 0:57 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-28 1:26 ` G. Branden Robinson
2018-11-29 7:25 ` arnold
2018-11-29 18:20 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-29 18:52 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-03 6:52 ` arnold
2018-11-19 13:08 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2018-11-19 13:20 ` Donald ODona
2018-11-19 7:05 ` Warner Losh
2018-11-19 7:20 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-19 16:48 ` Jon Steinhart
2018-11-28 0:10 ` Eric Allman
2018-11-29 18:48 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-29 19:13 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-29 19:28 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-29 19:32 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-29 19:36 ` Warner Losh
2018-11-29 19:40 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-30 14:55 ` WIlliam Cheswick
2018-11-30 15:05 ` [TUHS] Upas rewrite little language William Cheswick
2018-11-30 22:58 ` [TUHS] man-page style Dave Horsfall
2018-12-01 23:24 ` WIlliam Cheswick
2018-12-01 19:53 ` arnold
2018-12-01 21:26 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 7:22 ` [TUHS] Ease (was Re: man-page style) arnold
2018-12-02 7:32 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 17:22 ` arnold
2018-11-17 14:49 ` [TUHS] man-page style Michael Parson
2018-11-17 21:07 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-16 20:59 ` Jim Capp
2018-11-16 21:24 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-16 21:29 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 21:35 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-19 2:59 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 21:28 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-16 21:37 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-17 23:38 ` Ralph Corderoy
2018-11-18 0:31 ` Donald ODona
2018-11-18 3:00 ` Toby Thain
2018-11-19 3:09 ` Chet Ramey [this message]
2018-11-18 5:01 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-18 5:29 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2018-11-18 0:40 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-16 21:12 ` emanuel stiebler
2018-11-16 18:00 ` Warner Losh
2018-11-16 18:16 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 19:35 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 20:50 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-16 22:25 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-17 0:25 ` Earl Baugh
2018-11-16 21:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-17 18:16 ` arnold
2018-11-17 18:14 ` arnold
2018-11-17 18:21 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-11-17 19:42 ` arnold
2018-11-17 20:02 ` Noel Hunt
2018-11-17 20:36 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-19 3:05 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-16 5:24 ` Anthony Martin
2018-11-16 1:43 Doug McIlroy
2018-11-16 3:18 ` Rob Pike
2018-11-16 3:38 ` Ken Thompson via TUHS
2018-11-16 3:50 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-16 13:29 ` Mike Markowski
2018-11-16 13:44 ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-16 14:02 ` Harald Arnesen
2018-11-16 6:38 ` Larry McVoy
2018-11-16 13:42 ` Clem Cole
2018-11-16 19:05 ` Nemo
2018-11-16 19:29 Noel Chiappa
2018-11-16 20:46 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-11-17 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2018-11-19 3:02 ` Chet Ramey
2018-11-19 4:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-19 22:18 ` Michael Parson
2018-11-20 0:55 ` George Michaelson
2018-11-19 4:43 ` Kurt H Maier
2018-12-01 20:52 Norman Wilson
2018-12-01 21:34 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-01 23:09 Norman Wilson
2018-12-02 2:37 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 2:44 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-02 2:59 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2018-12-02 22:30 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-03 1:05 ` Warner Losh
2018-12-04 7:48 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-03 1:14 ` Bakul Shah
2018-12-03 1:30 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-04 21:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-04 21:34 ` Larry McVoy
2018-12-04 22:11 ` Bakul Shah
2018-12-05 6:50 ` Pierre DAVID
2018-12-28 6:32 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-12-03 6:53 ` arnold
2018-12-02 3:24 Norman Wilson
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