From: crossd@gmail.com (Dan Cross)
Subject: [TUHS] Were all of you.. Hippies?
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:49:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEoi9W7h3UR5uggS7LiXp3iSXryM5PTnkjwsMxPx-M0ebPshLw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170326031122.E18D418C097@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:
> I can't wait to see how you all fit remote procedure calls into a file
> paradigm.
>
I don't mean to sound flippant, but isn't that exactly what every RPC
protocol implemented on top of sockets has done for the last 30 or so years?
I feel like saying otherwise conflates two tangentially related things:
namespaces to name IPC endpoints in a "file" like manner, and an API to
deal with file-like objects as a byte stream on which one uses operations
like read and write. Certainly there is no REASON that sendto() et al can't
be implemented in terms of write(), but arguably the plethora of such as
*system calls* stems from the inability to name them in a way accessible to
open().
The plan9 model is imperfect but serves as the existence proof that it
*can* be done.
- Dan C.
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2017-03-26 3:11 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-26 3:17 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-03-26 3:21 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-26 3:49 ` Dan Cross [this message]
2017-03-26 3:55 ` ron minnich
2017-03-26 16:26 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-03-26 16:40 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-26 18:35 ` Steve Simon
2017-03-26 20:05 ` Andy Kosela
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2017-03-27 3:36 Doug McIlroy
2017-03-26 3:32 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-26 3:51 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-26 11:31 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-26 22:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-26 23:29 ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-27 4:20 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-26 4:31 ` Warner Losh
2017-03-26 1:35 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-26 1:45 ` Kurt H Maier
[not found] ` <CAH1jEzb=ZzPMT6YWg9pbR4T=s_ckB4YFsBJnefj8AEatdBY_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-26 4:46 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-26 2:49 ` ron minnich
2017-03-26 3:01 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-03-26 1:16 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-24 13:41 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-23 16:22 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-23 23:40 ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-22 17:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-22 22:35 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-23 8:56 ` shawn wilson
2017-03-23 13:13 ` Chet Ramey
2017-03-23 14:00 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-20 23:28 Doug McIlroy
[not found] ` <CAH_OBifeRyD__=TKTa=bMtFBMg9LsrCOyB+sSrO54Ezc-+zJbw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-21 1:24 ` shawn wilson
2017-03-21 16:20 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-21 1:45 ` Derrik Walker v2.0
2017-03-20 22:17 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-21 12:19 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-21 12:48 ` arnold
2017-03-21 13:29 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-23 10:13 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-23 12:08 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-20 21:48 Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-03-20 22:10 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-20 22:32 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-20 23:05 ` ron minnich
2017-03-21 2:51 ` Nick Downing
2017-03-21 20:28 ` Josh Good
2017-03-23 20:18 ` Michael Parson
2017-03-23 20:51 ` ron minnich
2017-03-24 0:18 ` Josh Good
2017-03-24 0:27 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-24 1:03 ` ron minnich
2017-03-24 1:05 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-24 2:33 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-03-24 5:17 ` Random832
2017-03-24 5:37 ` Erik E. Fair
2017-03-24 13:33 ` Random832
[not found] ` <20170324034915.GA23802@mcvoy.com>
2017-03-25 0:41 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-03-25 5:01 ` Random832
2017-03-25 12:48 ` Andrew Warkentin
2017-03-24 5:14 ` Random832
2017-03-24 6:06 ` ron minnich
2017-03-25 0:02 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-25 0:42 ` Toby Thain
2017-03-24 7:23 ` shawn wilson
2017-03-24 23:55 ` Josh Good
2017-03-25 3:55 ` ron minnich
2017-03-25 4:52 ` Steve Johnson
2017-03-25 13:48 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-25 18:51 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-25 22:26 ` Josh Good
2017-03-26 2:52 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-24 10:21 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-24 13:55 ` Random832
2017-03-24 14:53 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-24 2:33 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-24 3:53 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-24 7:15 ` shawn wilson
2017-03-24 7:37 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-24 8:06 ` shawn wilson
2017-03-24 15:22 ` Dan Cross
[not found] ` <CALMnNGj6jcM5E1jJtxSnhnyQPBV7Hn4B06=tm1vv0TfKV=Bs1A@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-24 22:09 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-24 15:34 ` Chet Ramey
2017-03-24 15:30 ` Chet Ramey
2017-03-24 17:09 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-03-20 23:08 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-21 0:10 ` Dan Cross
2017-03-21 2:09 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-22 12:50 ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-03-22 15:27 ` Dave Horsfall
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