From: Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] moving directories in svr2
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:13:29 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1a971e3-9f84-45af-ea1b-2628c9ccc770@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP2nic3RWX=nS53xTF4096qFTYKB=y35hVGOXcoEforexZbG6w@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/31/2021 10:53 AM, Adam Thornton wrote:
> Slightly older, but also slightly more fundamental to the system, you
> need look no farther than Solaris's `/bin/sh` for an illustrated
> example of the pros and cons of maintaining backwards compatibility.
> It was a pain by, say, 2007, to have to check if you were running on
> SunOS and use `/usr/xpg4/bin/sh` (IIRC) if you wanted a POSIX
> shell--by that point the other major vendors (and Linux) had something
> POSIX as the default shell. But Sun had an installed user base with a
> bunch of shell scripts that depended on pre-POSIX semantics.
Did some checking, at the risk of going off-topic:
Solaris 11.4 (current patch level, 11.4.40.107.3, December 2021):
/bin/sh looks to be Korn shell.
root@mercury:~# ls -l /bin/sh
-r-xr-xr-x 5 root bin 2946936 Dec 22 10:46 /bin/sh
root@mercury:~# strings /bin/sh | grep Korn | head -1
][-author?David Korn <dgk@research.att.com>][-copyright?Copyright (c)
1982-2021 AT&T Intellectual
Property][-license?http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/epl-v10.html][--catalog?libshell][+NAME?
root@mercury:~# sh --version
version sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
Solaris 11.3: /bin/sh seems to be Korn shell.
medusa# ls -l /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Jun 11 2016 /bin/sh -> amd64/ksh93
medusa# ls -lL /bin/sh
-r-xr-xr-x 8 root bin 2601344 Jul 1 2016 /bin/sh
medusa# strings !$ | grep dgk | head -1
strings /bin/sh | grep dgk | head -1
][-author?David Korn <dgk@research.att.com>][-copyright?Copyright (c)
1982-2016 AT&T Intellectual
Property][-license?http://www.eclipse.org/org/documents/epl-v10.html][--catalog?libshell][+NAME?
medusa# sh --version
version sh (AT&T Research) 93u+ 2012-08-01
Solaris 10: (seems /bin/sh is still Bourne at this point):
zeus<@medusa.kilonet.net># ls -l /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 6 2014 /bin/sh ->
../../sbin/sh
zeus<@medusa.kilonet.net># ls -lL /bin/sh
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 82456 Sep 22 2010 /bin/sh
sh --version just opens a new shell.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-31 16:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-30 3:45 Noel Chiappa
2021-12-30 4:02 ` Bakul Shah
2021-12-30 16:40 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-12-30 22:31 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-31 0:43 ` Bakul Shah
2021-12-31 1:00 ` Rob Pike
2021-12-31 1:45 ` Bakul Shah
2021-12-31 2:23 ` Adam Thornton
2021-12-31 18:56 ` Chet Ramey
2021-12-31 3:08 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-12-31 3:23 ` Rob Pike
2021-12-31 5:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-12-31 5:21 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-31 5:55 ` Rob Pike
2021-12-31 13:32 ` Michael Kjörling
2021-12-31 15:53 ` Adam Thornton
2021-12-31 16:13 ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2021-12-31 18:17 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-31 18:23 ` Larry McVoy
2021-12-31 18:37 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-31 18:29 ` Arthur Krewat
2022-01-01 0:09 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-03 13:35 ` Dan Cross
2022-01-03 20:23 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-03 20:45 ` Warner Losh
2022-01-03 21:15 ` Dan Cross
2022-01-03 22:26 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-03 23:10 ` Dan Cross
2022-01-04 15:45 ` Chet Ramey
2022-01-09 19:28 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-03 23:21 ` Doug McIntyre
2022-01-03 23:37 ` Adam Thornton
2022-01-04 14:49 ` Stuart Remphrey
2022-01-03 23:44 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-03 23:56 ` [TUHS] SMP: BSD vs System V (once was: moving directories in svr2) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2022-01-07 19:01 ` Warner Losh
2022-01-09 17:31 ` Stuart Remphrey
2022-01-13 2:35 ` Kevin Bowling
2022-01-03 23:56 ` [TUHS] moving directories in svr2 Warner Losh
2022-01-04 2:28 ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-01-04 2:42 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-04 9:28 ` [TUHS] Mythical Distress Sale (was Re: moving directories in svr2) Rob Gingell
2022-01-04 15:17 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-04 15:26 ` arnold
2022-01-04 15:40 ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-04 15:48 ` Richard Salz
2022-01-03 22:57 ` [TUHS] moving directories in svr2 Phil Budne
2022-01-04 15:40 ` [TUHS] VRFs (was Re: moving directories in svr2) Derek Fawcus
2021-12-31 5:12 ` [TUHS] moving directories in svr2 Bakul Shah
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-12-29 19:33 Noel Chiappa
2021-12-30 3:40 ` Jay Logue via TUHS
2021-12-29 19:13 Douglas McIlroy
2021-12-29 19:37 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-29 20:15 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-29 20:42 ` Richard Salz
2021-12-29 20:58 ` Dan Cross
2021-12-29 21:20 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-30 3:15 ` Bakul Shah
2021-12-29 17:12 Douglas McIlroy
2021-12-29 16:59 Bakul Shah
2021-12-29 17:04 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-29 17:14 ` arnold
2021-12-29 17:38 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-29 17:49 ` Brantley Coile
2021-12-29 18:27 ` ron minnich
2021-12-29 20:59 ` Rob Pike
2021-12-29 14:33 Will Senn
2021-12-29 15:02 ` arnold
2021-12-29 15:38 ` Will Senn
2021-12-29 15:44 ` Richard Salz
2021-12-29 16:17 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-29 16:58 ` Richard Salz
2021-12-30 5:14 ` Dan Stromberg
2021-12-30 16:22 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-30 18:02 ` John Cowan
2021-12-30 23:04 ` Richard Salz
2021-12-29 15:17 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-29 15:44 ` Will Senn
2021-12-29 16:10 ` Clem Cole
2021-12-29 16:33 ` Warner Losh
2021-12-29 16:01 ` Bakul Shah
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