[TUHS] Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[TUHS] Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Dan Cross]

I'm sure this is already known, but Nokia is relocating Bell Labs to
New Brunswick. Goodbye, Unix Room!

https://www.roi-nj.com/2023/12/08/real_estate/nokia-bell-labs-is-moving-to-helix-in-new-brunswick/

        - Dan C.

[TUHS] Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[John Floren via TUHS]

I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.


john

[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton]

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 Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.

my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.

I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the corporate directory.  

Anecdote on the latter:  The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name Search committee didn't have  "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.

=*+[]* Marty McGowan        +1 908 230-3739
VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
 <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>






On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
> 
> 
> john
> 

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[ron minnich]

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April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:

"I'm about to turn this terminal off,
the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
before <someone> left."

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:

>  Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>
> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
> between them.
>
> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the
> corporate directory.
>
> Anecdote on the latter:  The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to
> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley
> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name
> Search committee didn't have  "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>
> =*+[]* Marty McGowan        +1 908 230-3739
> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>
> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure.
> Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>
>
> john
>
>
>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[segaloco via TUHS]

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While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is said and done. You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls, formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern equivalent fails to come to mind.

For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and other Bell Labs sites over the decades. A video I watched recently about the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company. Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such important times passing too into the sands of time.

- Matt G.
On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>
> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
> before <someone> left."
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>
>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance between them.
>>
>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the corporate directory.
>>
>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>
>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739
>> [VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton](https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships)https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>
>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>>
>>> john

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[KenUnix]

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A company I used to work for was vacating a building. I asked, has anyone
checked under the raised floor tiles?

The answer was no. Well I did and found a lot of history down there. From
component parts from long forgotten
systems to water cooling lines for long gone IBM heavy metal and a ground
window.

-Ken


On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 7:59 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:

> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on
> ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is said
> and done.  You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet
> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls,
> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern
> equivalent fails to come to mind.
>
> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of curiosity,
> openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the human
> condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and other
> Bell Labs sites over the decades.  A video I watched recently about the
> breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections of
> Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something
> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.
> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and
> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of
> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such
> important times passing too into the sands of time.
>
> - Matt G.
> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>
> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
> before <someone> left."
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>
>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
>> between them.
>>
>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the
>> corporate directory.
>>
>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to
>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley
>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name
>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>
>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739
>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>
>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure.
>> Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>
>>
>> john
>>
>>
>>
>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[ron minnich]

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is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:

> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on
> ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is said
> and done.  You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet
> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls,
> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern
> equivalent fails to come to mind.
>
> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of curiosity,
> openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the human
> condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and other
> Bell Labs sites over the decades.  A video I watched recently about the
> breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections of
> Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something
> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.
> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and
> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of
> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such
> important times passing too into the sands of time.
>
> - Matt G.
> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>
> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
> before <someone> left."
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>
>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
>> between them.
>>
>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the
>> corporate directory.
>>
>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to
>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley
>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name
>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>
>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739
>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>
>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure.
>> Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>
>>
>> john
>>
>>
>>
>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS]

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The protons must have decayed by now.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:

> is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>
>> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on
>> ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is said
>> and done.  You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet
>> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls,
>> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern
>> equivalent fails to come to mind.
>>
>> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of
>> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the
>> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and
>> other Bell Labs sites over the decades.  A video I watched recently about
>> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections
>> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something
>> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.
>> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and
>> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of
>> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such
>> important times passing too into the sands of time.
>>
>> - Matt G.
>> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <
>> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>>
>> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
>> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
>> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
>> before <someone> left."
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
>> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>>
>>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
>>> between them.
>>>
>>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide the
>>> corporate directory.
>>>
>>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to
>>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley
>>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name
>>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>>
>>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739>
>>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>>
>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful structure.
>>> Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>>
>>>
>>> john
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Ken Thompson]

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there was a room with left-hand screw
100 watt light bulbs and sockets.


On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36 PM Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS <
tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:

> The protons must have decayed by now.
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen on
>>> ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is said
>>> and done.  You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet
>>> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls,
>>> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern
>>> equivalent fails to come to mind.
>>>
>>> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of
>>> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the
>>> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and
>>> other Bell Labs sites over the decades.  A video I watched recently about
>>> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections
>>> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something
>>> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.
>>> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and
>>> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of
>>> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such
>>> important times passing too into the sands of time.
>>>
>>> - Matt G.
>>> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <
>>> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>>>
>>> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
>>> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
>>> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
>>> before <someone> left."
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
>>> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>>>
>>>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
>>>> between them.
>>>>
>>>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide
>>>> the corporate directory.
>>>>
>>>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to
>>>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley
>>>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name
>>>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>>>
>>>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739>
>>>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
>>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful
>>>> structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> john
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Warner Losh]

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Why ? Pranksters or is there some application that benefits from left hand
screwed light bulbs?

Warner

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 10:55 PM Ken Thompson <kenbob@gmail.com> wrote:

> there was a room with left-hand screw
> 100 watt light bulbs and sockets.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36 PM Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS <
> tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>
>> The protons must have decayed by now.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen
>>>> on ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is
>>>> said and done.  You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet
>>>> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls,
>>>> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern
>>>> equivalent fails to come to mind.
>>>>
>>>> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of
>>>> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the
>>>> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and
>>>> other Bell Labs sites over the decades.  A video I watched recently about
>>>> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections
>>>> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something
>>>> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.
>>>> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and
>>>> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of
>>>> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such
>>>> important times passing too into the sands of time.
>>>>
>>>> - Matt G.
>>>> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <
>>>> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>>>>
>>>> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
>>>> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
>>>> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
>>>> before <someone> left."
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
>>>> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>>>>
>>>>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
>>>>> between them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide
>>>>> the corporate directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had to
>>>>> shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon Valley
>>>>> for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the Name
>>>>> Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739>
>>>>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
>>>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful
>>>>> structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> john
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Ken Thompson]

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they were regular in the ny subway to stop theft.
some companies in ny also got them for the same
reason. my guess is that bell labs (in ny) did and
brought them out to mh. someone rewired someones
desk lamp. i dont know how that worked out.


On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 9:58 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> Why ? Pranksters or is there some application that benefits from left hand
> screwed light bulbs?
>
> Warner
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, 10:55 PM Ken Thompson <kenbob@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> there was a room with left-hand screw
>> 100 watt light bulbs and sockets.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 6:36 PM Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS <
>> tuhs@tuhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The protons must have decayed by now.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 8:25 PM ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is "PJW in magnets" still there, I wonder.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 5:06 PM segaloco via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While my gut says not likely, I'm holding out hope that Nokia is keen
>>>>> on ensuring someone does a historical sweep of the premises before all is
>>>>> said and done.  You never know what might be sitting forgotten in a closet
>>>>> somewhere...a lot of history has gone down in those illustrious halls,
>>>>> formative moments in our quest for better technology for which a modern
>>>>> equivalent fails to come to mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me it's not just about innovations though, but a culture of
>>>>> curiosity, openness, and what feels like genuine interest in bettering the
>>>>> human condition that seeps from so much of the work accomplished by MH and
>>>>> other Bell Labs sites over the decades.  A video I watched recently about
>>>>> the breakup of the Bell System echoed what I see in countless recollections
>>>>> of Bell Labs alumni, a sense that their work was contributing to something
>>>>> greater for everyone, not just the bottom line of the telephone company.
>>>>> Hopefully the lessons Bell Labs has taught many an engineer, scientist, and
>>>>> businessperson over the years outlive these facilities by orders of
>>>>> magnitude, but in either case, sad to see the physical artifacts of such
>>>>> important times passing too into the sands of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Matt G.
>>>>> On Monday, December 11th, 2023 at 1:21 PM, ron minnich <
>>>>> rminnich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> April 16, 2014, from the Unix room:
>>>>>
>>>>> "I'm about to turn this terminal off,
>>>>> the last one in the Unix Room. It's the
>>>>> same 400MHz Pentium II I've had since
>>>>> before <someone> left."
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:46 AM Marty McGowan, MIT Club of Princeton <
>>>>> martymcg@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus following the Holmdel facility into the Halls of Oblivion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my current location, just E of the NJ Tpke, now splits the distance
>>>>>> between them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was in HO in the late '80s, at MH in the mid '90s, there to divide
>>>>>> the corporate directory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anecdote on the latter: The "company to be named" - i.e. Lucent had
>>>>>> to shell out Hundreds of 1000s to Yet Another Garage Tronics in Silicon
>>>>>> Valley for rights to the name -- the internet was young enough that the
>>>>>> Name Search committee didn't have "Dot Com" in it's dictionary as yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> =*+[]* Marty McGowan +1 908 230-3739 <(908)%20230-3739>
>>>>>> VP of Membership, MIT Club of Princeton
>>>>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>>>> <https://alumcommunity.mit.edu/topics/23427/memberships>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 15:37, John Floren via TUHS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't believe they'd give up the building, it's a beautiful
>>>>>> structure. Maybe they'll use it for other groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> john
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[TUHS] Re: Sad news: Bell Labs leaving Murray Hill.

[Andrew Hume]

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my wife, karen montgomery, who used to work for kernighan and others at MH,
sent me a local posting:

	“the entire facility from the ground to the floor cabinets and vents
are contaminated. they can’t knock anything down or even dig because there are
already chemicals flowing downhill in NP (new providence). hence the cancer
cluster in the woodbine circle area.”

karen grew up on woodbine circle.

there is also the NRC decommissioning plan:  https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0819/ML081910076.pdf


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