Re: Clarifying Lucio's Additional Requests [Was: Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9. ]

[sirjofri <sirjofri+ml-9fans@sirjofri.de>]

15.05.2024 11:17:46 vic.thacker@fastmail.fm:
> Not everyone here is uncomfortable, but like you, I'm disappointed in how interactions have turned out, so we have that in common. I respond to empirical evidence, so I mentioned the concern about submitting feature and bug requests because it seemed that it would benefit Lucio and others. There is nothing wrong with helping others and setting expectations. I don't understand why that would be a problem. Clarity is better than misunderstanding.

In this specific case, I think it was a misunderstanding on your side. Lucio mentioned a problem and asked for solutions. You understood it as a bug report that was not obviously flagged as a bug report. Lucio clearly stated in the last mail that he didn't ask for anything. He was merely asking about some problem he had. In my opinion that's a big difference.

Read also this: https://fqa.9front.org/fqa2.html#2.4

> It is possible you simply don’t know what you’re doing. If you do not understand how something is done in 9front or how it works, and can’t figure out how to resolve the problem using the manual pages, [...]
> Regarding my writing style, it is shaped by years of government service and an M.A. degree. I understand that my style may be unusual. Before posting, I make an effort to revise my responses for clarity, which can result in longer messages. We can blame grammarly.com for some word choices as well.

I understand that. That's also one of the reasons why my mails are usually so long. Keep in mind though that people here are reading mails because they want to, and they all try to understand them.

I'm reminded of a friend who's working for the German government. He was sending out a mail with a spreadsheet to some colleague with the wish to fill it out. That colleague asked back multiple times: first, if that mail was sent to her on purpose and if she's the correct recipient. Second, if she is supposed to fill out that spreadsheet. Third, if she should fill out that one specific column that is described as "please fill out this column". Those people aren't here on this mailing list, but I would totally understand extremely verbose (-vvvvv) mails like yours if you managed people like that for many years!

I'm glad I don't have a job like that...

sirjofri

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