Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

[vic.thacker@fastmail.fm]

Perhaps adopting this mindset could be beneficial. When developing a feature, it's worth considering its potential for portability and usefulness to other communities.

Vic

On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 07:27, hiro wrote:
> just send the code then
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 12:22 AM <vic.thacker@fastmail.fm> wrote:
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>> Let me explain my intent and elaborate on my point of view.  I started a new thread to enhance the signal-to-noise ratio. It's easy for a thread to become cluttered with multiple issues, so I believe creating separate threads for distinct concerns helps streamline communication and keeps discussions focused.
>>
>> As a hobbyist, I see we all share a passion for Plan 9 and its development.  Enhancing collaboration between communities would benefit everyone involved, and potentially enhance decorum on 9fans.  I am curious to gauge whether there is any interest in activities that could facilitate positive teamwork, foster stronger connections, and break down barriers between communities.
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>> Fostering discord among communities seems to only perpetuate more discord.  In my mind, seeking to improve collaboration between communities seemed, and still seems, worthwhile.
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>> As a hobbyist, I find myself pondering: What motivates individuals to participate in 9fans if not for a genuine interest in supporting the Plan 9 community?
>>
>> Vic
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>> On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 01:26, hiro wrote:
>> > congrats for teaching the bot to create more email threads with new
>> > subjects. just what we need as a community.
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 4:55 PM Lucio De Re <lucio.dere@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I guess we're on the same page, right up and including the fist fight(s). But I think we are all entitled to be treated more courteously in a public forum such as this, including not ascribing malice unless it is explicit. Being touchy has plagued this forum just about forever, it would be nicer if instead of calling out bad behaviour, it got the benefit of the doubt. I accept that I was as guilty of that presumption as much as anyone who posted after me.
>> >>
>> >> Lucio.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 3:39 PM <kvik@a-b.xyz> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > What I notice - correct me if I am mistaken - is that any comparison between 9front and 9legacy seems to needle a few members (very few, there are many names from that community that have not participated, specifically the ones I know hand have long respectes, ask them) of the 9front community that seem to take offence unless 9front is painted in a better light. I guess that's permissible, but please mind your manners if you choose to go that route, this is 9fans and 9front I believe has its own discussion groups.
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> I offer you the perspective that this happens by rule when obviously wrong
>> >>> or ridicolous claims or demands about / of 9front are made.
>> >>> This is seen to further degrade the already quite degraded perspective
>> >>> it has within parts of the 9fans community.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't think it is unreasonable for people who have invested a lot of effort
>> >>> into 9front and believe it to be something worthwhile to feel the urgency to
>> >>> defend it, or at the very least talk about it.
>> >>>
>> >>> I do think a bit more courtesy or less bad faith assumptions could
>> >>> be prescribed to certain individuals, and not only on the 9front side.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyway, I propose such issues are best solved by a fist fight, therefore
>> >>> acknowledging the legacy of dispute resolution methods of our ancestors and
>> >>> fostering a more resilient and vibrant community that thrives on both change
>> >>> and tradition.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >>
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