Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

[Eli Cohen <echoline@gmail.com>]

what is all the friction actually about here?? the most important
philosophical question always ends up the same, how can we figure out
a good formula for not being jerks?

I have ended up using 9front more and more, obviously. 9front was
started specifically to address the fact that Plan 9 from Bell Labs
didn't run on most computers... If I have any feeling at all about it,
it's that there's room for another fork that is an even simpler
research platform. in other discussions people say, why do we have
things that aren't relevant? We all love catclock, email... some users
may only want plan 9 for that... some people also discussed even
removing compiled binaries as much as possible. mostly, I like the
idea of plan 9 that runs on the computer I have... but I understand
that for a lot of reasons other people don't necessarily feel the same
way.

we wouldn't be here if we didn't agree Plan 9 is the best OS design.
and they're all free software. 9front has some very interesting things
that 9legacy can (and does) use as patches. it's just actually
difficult to write software, for some value of difficulty.

there's a lot of shit going on in the world today... we all gathered
here to agree Plan 9 is great software, then just be rude to each
other because...? I really don't understand, I'm not exaggerating.
what is the actual disagreement here?

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:12 PM David du Colombier <0intro@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Here are some clarifications.
> 
> 9legacy used to be a an experimental patch queue for
> Plan 9 from Bell Labs, providing patches that were not
> yet accepted into the mainline distribution. That's why
> we didn't recommend to use 9legacy, unless you had
> specific needs.
> 
> However, this isn't really the case since 2015, because
> Plan 9 from Bell Labs is not maintained anymore
> (last release was 2015-01-10).
> 
> Today, 9legacy is more of a continuation of Plan 9 from Bell Labs.
> There are still experimental patches, but also a lot of fixes and
> improvements that would probably be part of Plan 9 from Bell Labs
> if it was still maintained.
> 
> Also, NIX is not maintained anymore. However, there are
> some other variants of 9k (the 64-bit Plan 9 kernel), including
> the one available as part of 9legacy, that are still in progress.
> 
> --
> David du Colombier

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