* Random crashes and log-outs of E19 @ 2015-09-04 15:50 Frankie Wild 2015-09-06 9:31 ` Frankie Wild 2015-10-09 14:41 ` Userx Xbw 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-04 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 342 bytes --] I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors and then back to login screen. I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked all logs in /var/log to no avail... Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 443 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-04 15:50 Random crashes and log-outs of E19 Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-06 9:31 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-06 10:07 ` Frankie Wild 2015-10-09 14:41 ` Userx Xbw 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-06 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 880 bytes --] Interestingly enough it seems related to the udiskd daemon. At least this is what I am seeing for a second in the log upon crash before being presented with login screen. Another thing I've noticed is that about the same time the crashes started a glitch in E19 appeared as well. Again random, when I am trying to close a window on the taskbar the mouse would move precisely to the center of the screen and does that constantly until reboot. On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:50:49 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. > > At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors and > then back to login screen. > > I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked all > logs in /var/log to no avail... > > Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1147 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-06 9:31 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-06 10:07 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-06 17:37 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-06 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2346 bytes --] dbus-monitor --system dbus-monitor: unable to enable new-style monitoring: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: "Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.68" (uid=1000 pid=28279 comm="dbus-monitor --system ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Monitoring" member="BecomeMonitor" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)". Falling back to eavesdropping. signal time=1441533725.361185 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> destination=:1.68 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired string ":1.68" dbus-monitor --session signal time=1441533710.331885 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> destination=:1.6 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired string ":1.6" signal time=1441533710.331920 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> destination=:1.6 serial=4 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameLost string ":1.6" This might give some clue if someone else is experiencing a similar behavior. I have also tried to exclusively stop the remounting of the devices over a certain period of time, since I suspect this is the case when the crashes happen. udisks --inhibit-all-polling Or udisks2 --inhibit-all-polling Both resulting in command not found. On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 12:31:46 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > Interestingly enough it seems related to the udiskd daemon. At least this > is what I am seeing for a second in the log upon crash before being > presented with login screen. > > Another thing I've noticed is that about the same time the crashes started > a glitch in E19 appeared as well. Again random, when I am trying to close a > window on the taskbar the mouse would move precisely to the center of the > screen and does that constantly until reboot. > > On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:50:49 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. >> >> At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors and >> then back to login screen. >> >> I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked all >> logs in /var/log to no avail... >> >> Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3455 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-06 10:07 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-06 17:37 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-07 17:02 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-06 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2851 bytes --] The errors got more informative. It's definitely being caused by the external drive I am using from time to time. Obviously it's crashing due to the periodic nature of remounting the devices that udisks uses and happens when I unplugged the external hdd earlier, not quite sure why it's not event based rather than interval based. On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:07:52 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > dbus-monitor --system > > dbus-monitor: unable to enable new-style monitoring: > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: "Rejected send message, 1 matched > rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.68" (uid=1000 pid=28279 > comm="dbus-monitor --system ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Monitoring" > member="BecomeMonitor" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" > destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)". Falling back to eavesdropping. > signal time=1441533725.361185 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> > destination=:1.68 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired > string ":1.68" > > dbus-monitor --session > signal time=1441533710.331885 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> > destination=:1.6 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired > string ":1.6" > signal time=1441533710.331920 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> > destination=:1.6 serial=4 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; > interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameLost > string ":1.6" > > > This might give some clue if someone else is experiencing a similar > behavior. > > I have also tried to exclusively stop the remounting of the devices over a > certain period of time, since I suspect this is the case when the crashes > happen. > > udisks --inhibit-all-polling > > > Or > > udisks2 --inhibit-all-polling > > > > Both resulting in command not found. > > > On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 12:31:46 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> Interestingly enough it seems related to the udiskd daemon. At least this >> is what I am seeing for a second in the log upon crash before being >> presented with login screen. >> >> Another thing I've noticed is that about the same time the crashes >> started a glitch in E19 appeared as well. Again random, when I am trying to >> close a window on the taskbar the mouse would move precisely to the center >> of the screen and does that constantly until reboot. >> >> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:50:49 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>> >>> I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. >>> >>> At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors >>> and then back to login screen. >>> >>> I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked all >>> logs in /var/log to no avail... >>> >>> Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? >>> >> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4021 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-06 17:37 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-07 17:02 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-07 18:12 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-07 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3424 bytes --] Turns out to be more than that. I reinstalled udisks2 with external drive unplugged. Now the occasional log-outs happen with the notice udisks2 successfully reinstalled... It happens about 10-15 times a day, so I am at the point of reinstalling the whole system or trying out Manjaro OpenRC, although I like Void and am sure that udisks2 is used throughout all distributions nowaday, replacing the good old HAL. On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 8:37:26 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > The errors got more informative. It's definitely being caused by the > external drive I am using from time to time. Obviously it's crashing due to > the periodic nature of remounting the devices that udisks uses and happens > when I unplugged the external hdd earlier, not quite sure why it's not > event based rather than interval based. > > On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:07:52 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> dbus-monitor --system >> >> dbus-monitor: unable to enable new-style monitoring: >> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: "Rejected send message, 1 matched >> rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.68" (uid=1000 pid=28279 >> comm="dbus-monitor --system ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Monitoring" >> member="BecomeMonitor" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" >> destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)". Falling back to eavesdropping. >> signal time=1441533725.361185 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >> destination=:1.68 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired >> string ":1.68" >> >> dbus-monitor --session >> signal time=1441533710.331885 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >> destination=:1.6 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired >> string ":1.6" >> signal time=1441533710.331920 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >> destination=:1.6 serial=4 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameLost >> string ":1.6" >> >> >> This might give some clue if someone else is experiencing a similar >> behavior. >> >> I have also tried to exclusively stop the remounting of the devices over >> a certain period of time, since I suspect this is the case when the crashes >> happen. >> >> udisks --inhibit-all-polling >> >> >> Or >> >> udisks2 --inhibit-all-polling >> >> >> >> Both resulting in command not found. >> >> >> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 12:31:46 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>> >>> Interestingly enough it seems related to the udiskd daemon. At least >>> this is what I am seeing for a second in the log upon crash before being >>> presented with login screen. >>> >>> Another thing I've noticed is that about the same time the crashes >>> started a glitch in E19 appeared as well. Again random, when I am trying to >>> close a window on the taskbar the mouse would move precisely to the center >>> of the screen and does that constantly until reboot. >>> >>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:50:49 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>>> >>>> I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. >>>> >>>> At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors >>>> and then back to login screen. >>>> >>>> I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked >>>> all logs in /var/log to no avail... >>>> >>>> Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? >>>> >>> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4681 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-07 17:02 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-07 18:12 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-08 20:42 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-07 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3925 bytes --] Hmmm I knew there is more to it. Check this out, to all interested in the saga: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/ The plague is everywhere, if you are not yet affected, stay tuned. Might as well try the shift to PC-BSD and Lumina in the end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRm0NDo1CiY On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 8:02:58 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > Turns out to be more than that. I reinstalled udisks2 with external drive > unplugged. Now the occasional log-outs happen with the notice udisks2 > successfully reinstalled... > > It happens about 10-15 times a day, so I am at the point of reinstalling > the whole system or trying out Manjaro OpenRC, although I like Void and am > sure that udisks2 is used throughout all distributions nowaday, replacing > the good old HAL. > > On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 8:37:26 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> The errors got more informative. It's definitely being caused by the >> external drive I am using from time to time. Obviously it's crashing due to >> the periodic nature of remounting the devices that udisks uses and happens >> when I unplugged the external hdd earlier, not quite sure why it's not >> event based rather than interval based. >> >> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:07:52 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>> >>> dbus-monitor --system >>> >>> dbus-monitor: unable to enable new-style monitoring: >>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: "Rejected send message, 1 matched >>> rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.68" (uid=1000 pid=28279 >>> comm="dbus-monitor --system ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Monitoring" >>> member="BecomeMonitor" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" >>> destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)". Falling back to eavesdropping. >>> signal time=1441533725.361185 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >>> destination=:1.68 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >>> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired >>> string ":1.68" >>> >>> dbus-monitor --session >>> signal time=1441533710.331885 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >>> destination=:1.6 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >>> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired >>> string ":1.6" >>> signal time=1441533710.331920 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >>> destination=:1.6 serial=4 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >>> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameLost >>> string ":1.6" >>> >>> >>> This might give some clue if someone else is experiencing a similar >>> behavior. >>> >>> I have also tried to exclusively stop the remounting of the devices over >>> a certain period of time, since I suspect this is the case when the crashes >>> happen. >>> >>> udisks --inhibit-all-polling >>> >>> >>> Or >>> >>> udisks2 --inhibit-all-polling >>> >>> >>> >>> Both resulting in command not found. >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 12:31:46 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>>> >>>> Interestingly enough it seems related to the udiskd daemon. At least >>>> this is what I am seeing for a second in the log upon crash before being >>>> presented with login screen. >>>> >>>> Another thing I've noticed is that about the same time the crashes >>>> started a glitch in E19 appeared as well. Again random, when I am trying to >>>> close a window on the taskbar the mouse would move precisely to the center >>>> of the screen and does that constantly until reboot. >>>> >>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:50:49 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. >>>>> >>>>> At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors >>>>> and then back to login screen. >>>>> >>>>> I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked >>>>> all logs in /var/log to no avail... >>>>> >>>>> Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? >>>>> >>>> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5358 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-07 18:12 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-08 20:42 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-09 21:47 ` JD Robinson 2015-09-09 21:51 ` JD Robinson 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-08 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4514 bytes --] OK, maybe it's my noobishment here, but after switching to udisks v1 instead of v2 the log-outs would only show xbps successfully installed xxx package. No more udisks errors, all errors now come as successful install of xbps package which happened earlier during the day via the regular xbps-install -Su. I can see I am talking to myself, does that mean nobody else ever experienced such behaviour ? On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 9:12:37 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > Hmmm I knew there is more to it. > > Check this out, to all interested in the saga: > > https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/ > > The plague is everywhere, if you are not yet affected, stay tuned. > > Might as well try the shift to PC-BSD and Lumina in the end. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRm0NDo1CiY > > On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 8:02:58 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> Turns out to be more than that. I reinstalled udisks2 with external drive >> unplugged. Now the occasional log-outs happen with the notice udisks2 >> successfully reinstalled... >> >> It happens about 10-15 times a day, so I am at the point of reinstalling >> the whole system or trying out Manjaro OpenRC, although I like Void and am >> sure that udisks2 is used throughout all distributions nowaday, replacing >> the good old HAL. >> >> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 8:37:26 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>> >>> The errors got more informative. It's definitely being caused by the >>> external drive I am using from time to time. Obviously it's crashing due to >>> the periodic nature of remounting the devices that udisks uses and happens >>> when I unplugged the external hdd earlier, not quite sure why it's not >>> event based rather than interval based. >>> >>> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 1:07:52 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>>> >>>> dbus-monitor --system >>>> >>>> dbus-monitor: unable to enable new-style monitoring: >>>> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: "Rejected send message, 1 matched >>>> rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.68" (uid=1000 pid=28279 >>>> comm="dbus-monitor --system ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Monitoring" >>>> member="BecomeMonitor" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" >>>> destination="org.freedesktop.DBus" (bus)". Falling back to eavesdropping. >>>> signal time=1441533725.361185 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >>>> destination=:1.68 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >>>> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired >>>> string ":1.68" >>>> >>>> dbus-monitor --session >>>> signal time=1441533710.331885 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >>>> destination=:1.6 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >>>> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired >>>> string ":1.6" >>>> signal time=1441533710.331920 sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> >>>> destination=:1.6 serial=4 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; >>>> interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameLost >>>> string ":1.6" >>>> >>>> >>>> This might give some clue if someone else is experiencing a similar >>>> behavior. >>>> >>>> I have also tried to exclusively stop the remounting of the devices >>>> over a certain period of time, since I suspect this is the case when the >>>> crashes happen. >>>> >>>> udisks --inhibit-all-polling >>>> >>>> >>>> Or >>>> >>>> udisks2 --inhibit-all-polling >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Both resulting in command not found. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, September 6, 2015 at 12:31:46 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Interestingly enough it seems related to the udiskd daemon. At least >>>>> this is what I am seeing for a second in the log upon crash before being >>>>> presented with login screen. >>>>> >>>>> Another thing I've noticed is that about the same time the crashes >>>>> started a glitch in E19 appeared as well. Again random, when I am trying to >>>>> close a window on the taskbar the mouse would move precisely to the center >>>>> of the screen and does that constantly until reboot. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:50:49 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors >>>>>> and then back to login screen. >>>>>> >>>>>> I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked >>>>>> all logs in /var/log to no avail... >>>>>> >>>>>> Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? >>>>>> >>>>> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6904 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-08 20:42 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-09 21:47 ` JD Robinson 2015-09-09 21:51 ` JD Robinson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: JD Robinson @ 2015-09-09 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 432 bytes --] I'm a bit stumped as to what problem you're actually having. Have you added yourself to the storage, disk, dbus and wheel groups? I face palmed a few times trying to figure out that some of the random behavior I was getting with desktop environments were being caused by this. In fact some things just don't mount properly for some reason I have to do it manually with disks utility in xfce. I blame dbus weirdness for this. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 461 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-08 20:42 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-09 21:47 ` JD Robinson @ 2015-09-09 21:51 ` JD Robinson 2015-09-10 6:09 ` Frankie Wild 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: JD Robinson @ 2015-09-09 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 200 bytes --] If you're getting booted off the system and out of the desktop environment, then you're violating some permissions somewhere or the service holding up your session is erring out on account of this. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 226 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-09 21:51 ` JD Robinson @ 2015-09-10 6:09 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-10 11:54 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-10 6:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 664 bytes --] Thanks JD, Thanks for your suggestion. It's strange that I haven't touched anything on permissions or groups lately/past 2-3 months/ it happened just like that. And more interestingly when I checked the groups today to add the suggested most of what I added before was gone, so maybe that was it. I will inspect for a few days and report back whether it was solved by that. On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 12:51:41 AM UTC+3, JD Robinson wrote: > > If you're getting booted off the system and out of the desktop > environment, then you're violating some permissions somewhere or the > service holding up your session is erring out on account of this. > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 864 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-10 6:09 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-10 11:54 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-10 21:07 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-10 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1090 bytes --] Added the user to the mentioned groups, also all other groups I considered relevant. The logouts now happen with two single lines I see as warnings, they also appear when I usually boot up my system - they come from brcmsmac and are printed by printk. They have been shown since day one without causing the current breaks. On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 9:09:03 AM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > Thanks JD, > > Thanks for your suggestion. It's strange that I haven't touched anything > on permissions or groups lately/past 2-3 months/ it happened just like > that. And more interestingly when I checked the groups today to add the > suggested most of what I added before was gone, so maybe that was it. I > will inspect for a few days and report back whether it was solved by that. > > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 12:51:41 AM UTC+3, JD Robinson wrote: >> >> If you're getting booted off the system and out of the desktop >> environment, then you're violating some permissions somewhere or the >> service holding up your session is erring out on account of this. >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1413 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-10 11:54 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-10 21:07 ` Frankie Wild 2015-09-15 7:31 ` Juan RP 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-10 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1510 bytes --] Hey guys, I will just reinstall the whole system tomorrow. I haven't done anything other than xbps-install -Su during the past week, no new software installed, so a week with a dozen of logouts a day is enough for me. If the thing occurs again and I find a solution I will post it in the same thread. Cheers! On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 2:54:05 PM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > Added the user to the mentioned groups, also all other groups I considered > relevant. The logouts now happen with two single lines I see as warnings, > they also appear when I usually boot up my system - they come from brcmsmac > and are printed by printk. They have been shown since day one without > causing the current breaks. > > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 9:09:03 AM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> Thanks JD, >> >> Thanks for your suggestion. It's strange that I haven't touched anything >> on permissions or groups lately/past 2-3 months/ it happened just like >> that. And more interestingly when I checked the groups today to add the >> suggested most of what I added before was gone, so maybe that was it. I >> will inspect for a few days and report back whether it was solved by that. >> >> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 12:51:41 AM UTC+3, JD Robinson wrote: >>> >>> If you're getting booted off the system and out of the desktop >>> environment, then you're violating some permissions somewhere or the >>> service holding up your session is erring out on account of this. >>> >> [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2002 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-10 21:07 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-09-15 7:31 ` Juan RP 2015-10-03 5:55 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Juan RP @ 2015-09-15 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 279 bytes --] I fear that reinstalling the system won't make the issues go away magically. Note that I'm using udisks/udisks with e19 and never had a single crash. If you are really sure it's udisks2 fault, try to start it manually with debugging and then collect a stack trace with gdb. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 332 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-15 7:31 ` Juan RP @ 2015-10-03 5:55 ` Frankie Wild 2015-10-08 15:37 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-10-03 5:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 941 bytes --] Sorry to be responding a bit late. Thanks for the advice Juan. I am also using e19 it was using udisks2 by default when the crashes started. I then switched to udisks and the frequency of crashes somehow got lower but didn't disappear. Probably 5 to 10 a day. I am not sure how to work with udisks although I went through their man pages, especially how to collect a stack trace with gdb. Detailed instructions would be most welcome. P.S. Congrats on the great distribution, something truly unique and new in the sea of boring respins of major systemd distros. On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 10:31:43 AM UTC+3, Juan RP wrote: > > > > I fear that reinstalling the system won't make the issues go away > magically. > > Note that I'm using udisks/udisks with e19 and never had a single crash. > > If you are really sure it's udisks2 fault, try to start it manually with > debugging and then collect a stack trace with gdb. > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1319 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-10-03 5:55 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-10-08 15:37 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-10-08 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1481 bytes --] Update, interestingly enough the problem does not persist in KDE or Gnome. What's even more interesting is that the latter two run a bit faster than E19 which is hard to explain, given they are memory hogs. There were other glitches in E19 lately like flickering taskbar, Google Chrome menus sticking below all windows, and some recovery crashes. Staying with KDE for the time being as it performs brilliantly so far. On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 8:55:53 AM UTC+3, Frankie Wild wrote: > > Sorry to be responding a bit late. > > Thanks for the advice Juan. > > I am also using e19 it was using udisks2 by default when the crashes > started. > > I then switched to udisks and the frequency of crashes somehow got lower > but didn't disappear. Probably 5 to 10 a day. > > I am not sure how to work with udisks although I went through their man > pages, especially how to collect a stack trace with gdb. > > Detailed instructions would be most welcome. > > P.S. Congrats on the great distribution, something truly unique and new in > the sea of boring respins of major systemd distros. > > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 10:31:43 AM UTC+3, Juan RP wrote: >> >> >> >> I fear that reinstalling the system won't make the issues go away >> magically. >> >> Note that I'm using udisks/udisks with e19 and never had a single crash. >> >> If you are really sure it's udisks2 fault, try to start it manually with >> debugging and then collect a stack trace with gdb. >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1962 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-09-04 15:50 Random crashes and log-outs of E19 Frankie Wild 2015-09-06 9:31 ` Frankie Wild @ 2015-10-09 14:41 ` Userx Xbw 2015-10-09 16:56 ` Frankie Wild 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Userx Xbw @ 2015-10-09 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 626 bytes --] my experience with E is it is so experimental that one build release will work then the update causes it to crash - then the next (hopefully) fixes it -- that's why I stopped using it -- fyi On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 10:50:49 AM UTC-5, Frankie Wild wrote: > > I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. > > At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors and > then back to login screen. > > I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked all > logs in /var/log to no avail... > > Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 865 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Random crashes and log-outs of E19 2015-10-09 14:41 ` Userx Xbw @ 2015-10-09 16:56 ` Frankie Wild 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Frankie Wild @ 2015-10-09 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: voidlinux [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 942 bytes --] Thanks for the feedback. I have experienced pretty much the same. They do have some very innovative ideas, for example I love the tiling environment, but since E17 they are pushing updates way too often, before being tested. On Friday, October 9, 2015 at 5:41:02 PM UTC+3, Userx Xbw wrote: > > my experience with E is it is so experimental that one build release will > work then the update causes it to crash - then the next (hopefully) fixes > it -- that's why I stopped using it -- fyi > > On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 10:50:49 AM UTC-5, Frankie Wild wrote: >> >> I believe it's since I installed latest updates two days ago. >> >> At the time it occurs I get a black screen with a few lines of errors and >> then back to login screen. >> >> I couldn't memorize what the errors were at the time. I have checked all >> logs in /var/log to no avail... >> >> Where could they be, so that I can post more info on the errors ? >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1306 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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