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From: Arthur Krewat <krewat@kilonet.net>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:50:42 -0400
Message-ID: <d9c42dd2-0f24-1577-0d15-91623ac47896@kilonet.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PV5Ma=pHWd5YdpAf57iw+DnbPsu5cz1XwoQzZ1mCCN6Q@mail.gmail.com>

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On 9/11/2019 5:57 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com 
> <mailto:lm@mcvoy.com>> wrote:
>
>     You're probably right but it wouldn't have mattered. SunOS was
>     very popular
>     and had a good VM system with a working mmap.  Once it became official
>     AT&T source everyone would have moved to it over time.
>
> But Sun would have to accept the economics of Intel processor sooner.  
> Which is funny because RoadRunner was a pretty neat machine.  They had 
> Solaris/386 but was way too little too late.   Sparc was a blind spot 
> I fear.
>

One of the reasons I went into Solaris whole-hog during the 
SunOS->Solaris thing was the availability of a version that ran on 
Intel. I ran an Intel SVR4.2 (Consensys) BBS in the early 90's, with 
USENET/NEWS, using a SunOS IPX as a back-end file server.

Of course, a few of my customers who did CAD were using Sun 
workstations, and everything moved to Solaris, so there was also that.

Once Solaris X86 came out, I jumped at the chance. I'm still 
administering PeopleSoft and Oracle on Solaris 11 X86. But sadly, time 
to move on.

Although, Oracle says Solaris support is continuing out until 2031, with 
extended support to 2034, with Solaris Cluster 4.x following suit. But 
at $1000/socket for support just for the OS, that pricing is a hard to 
take when it comes to CentOS/Redhat/Oracle Linux.

ak

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    On 9/11/2019 5:57 PM, Clem Cole wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><font color="#ff0000">On
              Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:54 PM Larry McVoy &lt;<a
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              probably right but it wouldn't have mattered. SunOS was
              very popular<br>
              and had a good VM system with a working mmap.  Once it
              became official<br>
              AT&amp;T source everyone would have moved to it over time.</font><br>
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              style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font
                color="#0000ff">But Sun would have to accept the
                economics of Intel processor sooner.  Which is funny
                because RoadRunner was a pretty neat machine.  They had
                Solaris/386 but was way too little too late.   Sparc was
                a blind spot I fear.</font></div>
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    <br>
    One of the reasons I went into Solaris whole-hog during the
    SunOS-&gt;Solaris thing was the availability of a version that ran
    on Intel. I ran an Intel SVR4.2 (Consensys) BBS in the early 90's,
    with USENET/NEWS, using a SunOS IPX as a back-end file server. <br>
    <br>
    Of course, a few of my customers who did CAD were using Sun
    workstations, and everything moved to Solaris, so there was also
    that.<br>
    <br>
    Once Solaris X86 came out, I jumped at the chance. I'm still
    administering PeopleSoft and Oracle on Solaris 11 X86. But sadly,
    time to move on. <br>
    <br>
    Although, Oracle says Solaris support is continuing out until 2031,
    with extended support to 2034, with Solaris Cluster 4.x following
    suit. But at $1000/socket for support just for the OS, that pricing
    is a hard to take when it comes to CentOS/Redhat/Oracle Linux.<br>
    <br>
    ak<br>
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-09  6:25 Warner Losh
2019-09-09  6:36 ` arnold
2019-09-10 15:16 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11  0:28   ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11  3:53   ` Warner Losh
2019-09-11 15:36     ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 16:55       ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was " Charles H Sauer
2019-09-12 19:31         ` Kevin Bowling
2019-09-12 20:59           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-12 21:09             ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses - Series/1 NUXI Ronald Natalie
2019-09-12 21:31             ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS Warner Losh
2019-09-12 22:30             ` jcs
2019-09-12 23:12               ` reed
2019-09-12 23:22                 ` jcs
2019-09-12 23:29               ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses Warren Toomey
2019-09-13  7:06                 ` arnold
2019-09-13  8:30                 ` SPC
2019-09-14 18:29                   ` Warner Losh
2019-09-12 21:29           ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS Charles H Sauer
2019-09-11 17:49       ` [TUHS] " Richard Salz
2019-09-11 17:52         ` ron
2019-09-11 21:44           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 18:11       ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-11 18:18         ` Richard Salz
2019-09-11 18:54           ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-11 21:05             ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 21:34             ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 21:57             ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 22:50               ` Arthur Krewat [this message]
2019-09-11 21:59           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 21:50         ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 22:49         ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-12  3:43           ` [TUHS] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-12  4:20             ` George Michaelson
2019-09-12  4:31               ` [TUHS] [SPAM] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-12 13:44                 ` Tony Finch
2019-09-13  4:11                   ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13  5:54                     ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-13  8:00                       ` Peter Jeremy
2019-09-13 15:23                         ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 21:36                         ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-12  4:28             ` [TUHS] SCCS Jon Forrest
2019-09-12  4:33               ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-12  6:12                 ` William Corcoran
2019-09-12 14:35                   ` Clem Cole
2019-09-13  5:22                 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-13  5:50                   ` Bakul Shah
2019-09-12 16:45               ` Eric Allman
2019-09-12 17:29                 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-12 17:47                   ` Warner Losh
2019-09-13  8:12                   ` emanuel stiebler
2019-09-13 21:11                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-13 21:17                       ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 21:48                         ` Bakul Shah
2019-09-13 23:12                           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-13 23:03                         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-14  1:55                           ` [TUHS] [SPAM] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-16 17:23                             ` [TUHS] SCCS Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-16 20:31                               ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-17 17:57                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-18  8:48                               ` Eric Allman
2019-09-18 17:33                                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-12 20:07             ` Nemo
2019-09-11 16:05   ` [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS Paul Winalski
2019-09-11 17:14     ` ron
2019-09-14  0:44   ` [TUHS] a book (was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS) reed
2019-09-14  2:53     ` Warner Losh
2019-09-15  2:18       ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15  2:39         ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15  3:24         ` Adam Thornton
2019-09-14 22:46     ` Clem cole
2019-09-15  0:58       ` Adam Thornton
2019-09-15  3:30         ` Eric Allman
2019-09-15  4:21           ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-15  5:17             ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 20:14               ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 20:21                 ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 20:12           ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 21:28             ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-15 23:27               ` Clem cole
2019-09-15 23:45                 ` Richard Salz
2019-09-15  7:43     ` Andy Kosela

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