From: Clem cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] a book (was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS)
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 19:27:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D3DF8E2D-8FD0-46FF-B15A-6B4E874A2776@ccc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.21.9999.1909160724320.18105@aneurin.horsfall.org>
Actually the thing that some (maybe many) of the folks you mentioned seem to have the hardest time accepting the Linux is just the modern implementation of Unix. which i think is sad. I think Linux is a wonderful piece of work but the developers do need to recognize we’re it came.
There is a famous line which I wish I knew who said that to paraphrase becomes: “In science we stand on the shoulders of the great people that came before us, but in computer science we try to step on their toes.”
Sent from my PDP-7 Running UNIX V0 expect things to be almost but not quite.
> On Sep 15, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Dave Horsfall <dave@horsfall.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Clem Cole wrote:
>>
>> And this is the biggest issue. And I have observed (maybe I'm wrong - but it seems to me ...) that the people that I know today, that dislike Peter's work dislike that Linux is not huge part of it. Or more importantly that it was the emergence of the Internet and UNIX that were enablers for Linux. As Jon has suggested, it should not be Gnu/Linux but rather Internet/Linux.
>
> Indeed, and not a few Linux users hate it being pointed out that Unix was first. If it was not for Unix, we would not have Linux (because you had
> to pay for Unix).
>
> And my pet theory is that if it was not for Unix, we would all be running
> some version of Windoze, and loving it...
>
> -- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-15 23:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-09 6:25 [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS Warner Losh
2019-09-09 6:36 ` arnold
2019-09-10 15:16 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 0:28 ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 3:53 ` Warner Losh
2019-09-11 15:36 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 16:55 ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was " Charles H Sauer
2019-09-12 19:31 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-09-12 20:59 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-12 21:09 ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses - Series/1 NUXI Ronald Natalie
2019-09-12 21:31 ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS Warner Losh
2019-09-12 22:30 ` jcs
2019-09-12 23:12 ` reed
2019-09-12 23:22 ` jcs
2019-09-12 23:29 ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses Warren Toomey
2019-09-13 7:06 ` arnold
2019-09-13 8:30 ` SPC
2019-09-14 18:29 ` Warner Losh
2019-09-12 21:29 ` [TUHS] IBM Unix source licenses [was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS Charles H Sauer
2019-09-11 17:49 ` [TUHS] " Richard Salz
2019-09-11 17:52 ` ron
2019-09-11 21:44 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 18:11 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-11 18:18 ` Richard Salz
2019-09-11 18:54 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-11 21:05 ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 21:34 ` Steve Johnson
2019-09-11 21:57 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 22:50 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-09-11 21:59 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 21:50 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-11 22:49 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-12 3:43 ` [TUHS] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-12 4:20 ` George Michaelson
2019-09-12 4:31 ` [TUHS] [SPAM] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-12 13:44 ` Tony Finch
2019-09-13 4:11 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 5:54 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-13 8:00 ` Peter Jeremy
2019-09-13 15:23 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 21:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-12 4:28 ` [TUHS] SCCS Jon Forrest
2019-09-12 4:33 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-12 6:12 ` William Corcoran
2019-09-12 14:35 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-13 5:22 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-13 5:50 ` Bakul Shah
2019-09-12 16:45 ` Eric Allman
2019-09-12 17:29 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-12 17:47 ` Warner Losh
2019-09-13 8:12 ` emanuel stiebler
2019-09-13 21:11 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-13 21:17 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-13 21:48 ` Bakul Shah
2019-09-13 23:12 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-13 23:03 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-14 1:55 ` [TUHS] [SPAM] SCCS Larry McVoy
2019-09-16 17:23 ` [TUHS] SCCS Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-16 20:31 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-17 17:57 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-18 8:48 ` Eric Allman
2019-09-18 17:33 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2019-09-12 20:07 ` Nemo
2019-09-11 16:05 ` [TUHS] PWB vs Unix/TS Paul Winalski
2019-09-11 17:14 ` ron
2019-09-14 0:44 ` [TUHS] a book (was Re: PWB vs Unix/TS) reed
2019-09-14 2:53 ` Warner Losh
2019-09-15 2:18 ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 2:39 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 3:24 ` Adam Thornton
2019-09-14 22:46 ` Clem cole
2019-09-15 0:58 ` Adam Thornton
2019-09-15 3:30 ` Eric Allman
2019-09-15 4:21 ` Larry McVoy
2019-09-15 5:17 ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 20:14 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 20:21 ` Jon Steinhart
2019-09-15 20:12 ` Clem Cole
2019-09-15 21:28 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-09-15 23:27 ` Clem cole [this message]
2019-09-15 23:45 ` Richard Salz
2019-09-15 7:43 ` Andy Kosela
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