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* Re: [9fans] Re: Solaris thread scheaduling
@ 2000-08-18 15:34 rob pike
       [not found] ` <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: rob pike @ 2000-08-18 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

What, we should use uncooperative threads?
Adversarial threads? Anarchic threads?

I guess I don't know the terminology.  If POSIX threads
are a good thing, perhaps I don't want to know what they're
better than.

-rob



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* Re: [9fans] new versions of graphics programs?
@ 2000-09-07 21:57 rob pike
  2000-09-07 22:50 ` Jim Choate
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: rob pike @ 2000-09-07 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

I started on a couple of the tools.  Since the PIC format is
now largely irrelevant - the standard image format captures
much of its capabilities - it seemed worth retiring the fb
software.  Retiring it also helped keep the distribution smaller
and easier to assemble.  But clearly, some of the tools in 
fb/ are worth having.

I worked on a couple of the tools and stumbled into original
bugs that I didn't see how to fix, so that project has stalled.
The shipped gif and jpg tools and the iconv program should
address some of the lower-level needs.  Higher-level
image processing is a project for a dedicated soul; it's a big
job.

-rob




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* Re: [9fans] could those of you who have students check this out for
@ 2001-06-09 17:22 forsyth
  2001-06-09 18:50 ` [9fans] Re: the 'science' in computer science andrey mirtchovski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: forsyth @ 2001-06-09 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

>>our computer science department has strong roots in algorithmics.

that might be true, but do the students, in the main, write programs
except those they are required to do for assessments and projects?



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* [9fans] bitsy question
@ 2001-06-26 16:33 John Packer
  2001-06-26 17:10 ` [9fans] " Dan Cross
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: John Packer @ 2001-06-26 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

I have Plan9 installed on my ipaq, but I don't have a pcmcia sleeve,
or wavelan on my network.

So I have been trying to link the bitsy to my terminal using ppp over
the 
serial port. (I made a ramdisk with ip/ppp).

PPP tries to authenticate for 30 seconds (through chap, I think) then
times out.


I've tried running ppp a few different ways, but something like
	
	ip/ppp -df -b 115200 -p /dev/eia0 -s $user:$secret 135.104.99.5

on the bitsy and something like
	
	ip/ppp -dfS -b 115200 -p /dev/eia0 135.104.99.1

on the server.

Has anyone tried this? What am I doing wrong?

Thanks, 

John


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* Re: [9fans] architectures
@ 2001-07-12  8:42 forsyth
  2001-07-12 13:56 ` Laura Creighton
  2001-07-12 16:13 ` Ozan Yigit
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: forsyth @ 2001-07-12  8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

>>i'm particularly fond of the acme interface, and i really
>>like the chording (okay, maybe it's not for everyone, but _i_
>>really like it). i'm asking about non-techie folks. for them,
>>wouldn't a single-button interface be simpler to understand?

not necessarily, since the functionality of the extra buttons
must be provided somehow, whether by menus, pop-up menus,
key-mouse combinations, keys alone, or some other way.  much might
depend on the choice of conventions for using more than one button.
that in acme all three buttons select text is a big simplification.
i usually introduce it as follows: ``button 1 selects text, button 2
selects text, and button 3 ...'' and during the following pause
nearly everyone says ``selects text?''.  i then explain
that `of course' each button does different things with
the text selected.  that seems fine.  the chording for cut/paste/copy
takes a little practice, but since it has a `feel' much like grabbing
text from the screen, that also seems fine.   outside acme,
the Blit convention (perhaps adopted from Smalltalk, i don't know)
was something like: button 1 generally selected things, button 2 provided local
operations (usually on the thing selected), and button 3 provided global operations
for the application, with a few exceptions such as paint programs.
most menus were kept fairly small.

i know at least one non- technical user of acme who sends and receives
mail, plumbing photos and other things, and editing quite happily.
other non-technical people i've shown it to wanted to use acme on
their machines for document preparation and email because the
organisation into columns and frames and the use of the buttons was
just so much more effective than their `desktop' or a clutter of
windows.  (they also like the soft use of colour.)
contrary to Tog's advice on this point: with care i suspect
you can make abstractions simple and effective enough without insisting on
drawing a tenuous likeness to something in the `real world'.



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* Re: [9fans] Virtual memory in BSD and Plan9
@ 2001-10-25 17:55 Russ Cox
  2001-10-25 18:29 ` William Josephson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2001-10-25 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

	Could you please recommend me a reading on both architectures to
	understand differences between them. I read here that BSD paging has
	some drawbacks to AT&T one (used in Plan9). And I want to make this
	clear for myself.

The discussions here were talking about many-years-old
systems.  I don't think anyone even mentioned Plan 9's VM system,
which is just about the simplest thing you could imagine.
The BSDs have oodles more ``features.''  I'd look in
www.researchindex.com for the latest stuff, and in McKusick et al.
(Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD OS) for older stuff.
You can decide for yourself whether Plan 9 needs any of it.

Russ



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* [9fans] Getting started in Plan9 - help
@ 2002-01-20 20:02 Roshan James
  2002-01-20 21:01 ` Matt H
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: Roshan James @ 2002-01-20 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

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Getting started in Plan9
-------------------------    
Its been a little over a week since i got my Plan9 working and 
I still seem to be in tourist mode.Lots of questions and 
a few suggestions:
(I promise I have tried to answer these for myself before
before I am ask them)

It would be great if we have a school boy style step-by-step 
getting-off-the-ground tour of plan9, maybe somewhere in the
wiki. I would be glad to do this, if i knew enough.

Graphics
-----------
- I am working with an S3 Trio 64v2 card, the install floppy
gave me 800*600 res,but after installation i am on 640*480 and
i cant seem to be able to change it
aux/vga -l 800x600x8
gives me
'Warning (BUG) : redefinition of aperture does not change 
s3screen segment.'
in a black background in the sentre of the screen and an error
message that reads 
'aux/vga: vgactlw: <size 800x600x8 m8>: vga already configured'
in the console window. it is a low end card but I believe that 
I did have a higher res through the boot disk so it should be 
possible here too. how can i change to a higher res ?

- If plan9 is booted through xosl in 640*480 res,plan9 graphics
display ends up corrupt. the bootloader does switch to text mode
before the OS is booted. anyother resolution or a text mode boot
loader does not seem to have a problem. 
The right quarter of the screen (approx) seems to be a duplicate
of the band of the screen display between in the left part. (bad
description i know). Anyway to fix this ?


Acessibility
-------------
- How can I read a couple of html docs in Plan9 ?
- Is there a place where the uses of directories the std file system
heirarchy is discussed, esp /n ? 
- /n/c: exists, how can i access the extended partitions ?
- How can i access the floppy a: ? /n/a: exists but shows no files.
- How can i access the extended windows partitions ? 
- Problem with accessing C: File operations to /n/c: causes a problem
'%mkdir /n/c:/testdir'
'mkdir: cant create /n/c:/testdir: write to hungup channel'
also a black background error message comes (is there a generic name
for these messages ?)
'dossrv 45: suicide: sys: trap fault read addr=0xb pc=0x00004757'
help ?

Shell
------ 
- How can I find/search for a file in Plan9 ? the usual find /|grep xxx 
does not exist here, what is the equivalent ?
- Why doesnt/Can rc have autocomplete and filename completion as in 
bash ? This has become so neccessary.

Keys
-----
- Why cant the left/right arrow keys+home+end keys move the cursor,
it is really difficult to edit something by placing the cursor there
with the mouse. 
- Unless is it part of a grander plan (no pun intended), can we move 
the process interrupt key from Del to something else and have the 
conventional functionality of del back ?

General
-------
- Is the option of plan9 default boot in bootsetup (during install)
safe for other OSes that exist on the system ?
- Why arent there more applications and more developers interested
in developing for plan9 ? 

Russ, I think it would kill you to keep answering all the newbie 
questions. Russ, Imel, Thanks for all the help you have been. I 
think the Plan9 faq needs updation with some of the more generic 
questions here. This is a lesson that could learned from the Win32's, 
if you want the OS to grow, you have to get people comfortable with 
it very fast. I think we can make that happen.

Rosh.

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One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
(Lord of the Rings)

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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-01  2:51 Sam
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: Sam @ 2002-03-01  2:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

What do you say rob, could you suggest how? ;)

I would actually be more interested in seeing this work with
acme, if nothing but for the novelty of it.

Sam

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:43:26 -0500
From: John Puttress <puttress@comcast.net>
To: sah@softcardsystems.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel

Sam,
Samuel is an integration of Rob Pike's sam editor with Joe Steffen's cscope
browser.  I believe that both tools are available externally, and I have to
believe that Rob's sam has been ported to plan9.  Unfortunately, samuel was
never released externally, and I cannot legally distribute this source
outside of Lucent... and since I am no longer working for Lucent, I
wouldn't be able to start the process to release it...  if you can find an
advocate inside of Lucent, I can direct them to the source.

On the otherhand, Rob's sam editor is a very powerful tool on its own, and
could be used with cscope to do many of the same searches samuel does,
without changing code.  I'm sure Rob could suggest how.

John

Sam Hopkins wrote:

> Mr. Puttress,
>
> There has been discussion on the 9fans mailing
> list as of late of an editor named samuel you
> wrote some time ago.  I'm quite interested in the
> source code and getting it to run on plan9.
>
> Would you be willing to share the source with
> me?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sam Hopkins
>
> ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> Subject: Re: [9fans] samuel
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:04:21 -0500
> From: Jim Kelleman <kelleman@lucent.com>
> To: sah@softcardsystems.com
>
> His home email address is puttress@comcast.net
> He did get another job, so he probably won't read your
> mail until the evening.
>
> jim
>
> Sam Hopkins wrote:
> > I am interested in the code.  Please forward me his
> > home e-mail address.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sam
> >
> > On Thursday 28 February 2002 08:19, Jim Kelleman wrote:
> > > Mr. Puttress (John) was my supervisor until he retired
> > > this past summer.  If you're interested in the code,
> > > send mail to me privately and I'll give you his home email address.
> > >
> > > jim
> > >
> > > rob pike wrote:
> > > > > Yes please, release it. I'd love to try samuel.
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea where the code is.  It was done by a Mr. Puttress,
> > > > who was working for Ted Kowalski at the time.  I don't know where
> > > > those people are any more, but they might be at AT&T.
> > > >
> > > > I looked around the Lucent and AT&T sites with no luck.  The code
> > > > has never been part of our tree, as far as I know.
> > > >
> > > > -rob
>
> -------------------------------------------------------



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-01 16:04 Russ Cox
  2002-02-02 17:05 ` Matt H
  2002-03-04 10:04 ` David Rubin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2002-03-01 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

I just looked at the cscope documentation.
As Rob said, you can get 90% of cscope from
grep -n, which is convenient to alias as `g':

	g% cat g
	#!/bin/rc
	
	flags=()
	while(! ~ $#* 1 && ~ $1 -*){
		flags=($flags $1);
		shift
	}
	switch($#*){
	case 0
		echo 'usage: g [flags] pattern [files]' >[1=2]
		exit usage
	case 1
		grep -n $flags -- $1 *.[Cbchm] *.cc *.py *.tex *.ms /dev/null \
			|[2] {grep -v '^grep: can''t open \*' >[1=2]; status=''}
	case *
		grep -n $flags -- $* /dev/null
	}

The set of files in ``case 1'' changes from person to
person.  My acme window tags are littered with
g this and g '^that'.

If you don't mind typing small regular expressions
like '^that' and your source code conforms to the 
``function names in definitions start at the beginning
of the line'' convention, then you can usually get 
by without cscope.

If you want to remember a little more, you could
try adding some stuff to g to find function/macro
declarations:

	g% cat h
	#!/bin/rc
	
	rfork e
	if( ~ $#* 0){
		echo 'usage: h name [files]' >[1=2]
		exit usage
	}
	
	pattern=$1
	shift
	files=($*)
	if(~ $#files 0)
		files=(*.h ../port/*.h /sys/include/*.h /sys/include/*/*.h)
	datadef='^[a-z].*[ 	]'^$pattern^'\('
	definedef='^#define[ 	]+'^$pattern^'[ 	]'
	g '('^$datadef^')|('^$definedef^')' $files \
		|[2] {grep -v '^grep: can''t open ' >[1=2]; status=''}
	g% 

or data definitions:

	g% cat def
	#!/bin/rc
	
	rfork e
	if( ~ $#* 0){
		echo 'usage: def name [files]' >[1=2]
		exit usage
	}
	
	pattern=$1
	shift
	files=($*)
	g '^[ 	]*[a-zA-Z0-9_]+[ 	a-zA-Z0-9,]*[, 	]'^$pattern^'($|[^a-zA-Z0-9_])' $files
	g% 

or uses of a particular symbol:

	g% cat sym
	#!/bin/rc
	
	rfork e
	if( ~ $#* 0){
		echo 'usage: sym name [files]' >[1=2]
		exit usage
	}
	
	pattern=$1
	shift
	files=($*)
	g '(^|[^a-zA-Z0-9_])'^$pattern^'($|[^a-zA-Z0-9_])' $files
	g% 

I wrote these last three in a hurry last night just 
for fun, inspired by having seen something similar
a while back in a screen shot in the help paper,
but I'm not sure whether I'll actually use them
or just stick with g.  h might be useful since it
provides a different set of default files.  def and 
sym seem less useful, since g usually turns up
what I want with a minimum of noise.

The other nice thing about g instead of cscope-like
things is that your searches can be arbitrary regexps
rather than whatever cscope happens to provide;
for example, how do you g 'dmactl = 0' in cscope?

Russ



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-01 16:15 rob pike
  2002-03-04 10:04 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: rob pike @ 2002-03-01 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

This all drives home my position on these matters, which is that
general purpose tools that work well together almost always trump
special purpose tools such as language-specific ones.  And even when
they don't, they win overall by being applicable to domains far beyond
the reach of the special-purpose ones.  Acme can integrate mail rather
nicely; samuel never had a chance - even a reason to go - in that
direction.

You can have your IDEs; I'll take a good text editor any day, even if
I have to write my own grep to go along with it.  (A reasonable grep,
even without a regexp library to hand, can be done in a few dozen
lines of C.  An exercise for the reader.)

-rob



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-01 17:13 Bengt Kleberg
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: Bengt Kleberg @ 2002-03-01 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans


> Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> From: "Matt H" <matt@proweb.co.uk>

 
> aha despite this useful convention Boyd wants his to understand Python code
> not C where such things are not so easily grepped for
> 

acme/wily shows its preference for c (style languages) by the ease one
can check if/for/while/case/... balance by clicking inside '{'.
ex: is this (Erlang) code properly balanced?

Fun = fun(X) ->
	R = case X of
		1 ->
			ok;
		_ ->
			fail
		end,
	R,
	end,
end,
Fun(1).



bengt



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-01 17:29 anothy
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: anothy @ 2002-03-01 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

//acme/wily shows its preference for c (style languages) by
// the ease one can check if/for/while/case/... balance by
// clicking inside '{'.

i don't think this has anything to do with prefering C-style
languages. ',",`,[,{,(,< (any others?) all work the same way. i
think it's more an issue of using the generality principle
again. acme doesn't have to know anything about any
language to match { to } and so on; to understand the Fun
or case declaration you gave would require special
understanding of the language. for example, acme knows
nothing of how to highlight an entire case clause, because
it knows nothing of the language.
ア



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-01 17:58 Russ Cox
  2002-03-05  9:22 ` Boyd Roberts
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2002-03-01 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

As far as Python is concerned, I've been happy
with g alone.  Boyd, what did you want samuel to do
besides grep for things?



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* Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-04  0:21 Andrew Simmons
  2002-03-05  9:34 ` Boyd Roberts
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Simmons @ 2002-03-04  0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

>(A reasonable grep, even without a regexp library to hand, can be done in
a few dozen
>lines of C.  An exercise for the reader.)

It's easier to cheat, and look up the answer in TPOP chapter 9.




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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-04 11:43 Bengt Kleberg
  2002-03-04 14:02 ` Howard Trickey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: Bengt Kleberg @ 2002-03-04 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans


> Delivered-To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
> From: anothy@cosym.net
...deleted
> i don't think this has anything to do with prefering C-style
> languages. ',",`,[,{,(,< (any others?) all work the same way. i

i belive that acme, et al, gets away with (ie, nobody thinks it needs
it) having no language mode (or whatever this thing is called that
makes an editor programming language sensitive) just because it is used
by programmers codeing in c(-style) language(s).

if plan9/inferno switched to beeing implemented in something-else, that
did not use ',",`,[,{,(,<, i strongly belive (IMHO, ok?) that a
language mode would be developed.


bengt



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-04 14:41 Russ Cox
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 195+ messages in thread
From: Russ Cox @ 2002-03-04 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans

> if plan9/inferno switched to beeing implemented in something-else, that
> did not use ',",`,[,{,(,<, i strongly belive (IMHO, ok?) that a
> language mode would be developed.

what terrible languages are you envisioning that would be so
difficult for humans to read as to _require_ the use of external
help?  the language

	#!/bin/rc
	cat $* | tr '^@' '()' | lisp

would benefit from ^-@ matching, but aside from contrived examples
i can't understand what more you want your text editor to do.

russ

The various ML dialects share the same flaw in their syntax.
They lack a simple property I call editor friendliness.  An editor
friendly language has the property that a simple calculation
is all that is needed to locate the beginning of an expression when
one is at the end of an expression.

As you can guess, Lisp is a very editor friendly language.  
Because of this fact, an experienced Emacs user realizes
nearly all of the benefits of structure based editing without
suffering from its restrictions.
	- John D. Ramsdell

The various Lisp dialects share the same flaw in their syntax.
They lack a simple property I call human friendliness.  A human
friendly language has the property that syntactic constructs are
different enough from one another that a simple visual inspection
is all that is needed to locate the beginning of an expression when
one is at the end of an expression.

As you can guess, Lisp is a very human unfriendly language.
Because of this fact, an experienced Lisp user realizes that it
is virtually impossible to write Lisp programs of any size without
substantial mechanical assistance.
	- Andrew Koenig



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* Re: Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd)
@ 2002-03-04 15:24 Bengt Kleberg
  2002-03-05  9:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 195+ messages in thread
From: Bengt Kleberg @ 2002-03-04 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 9fans


> what terrible languages are you envisioning that would be so
> difficult for humans to read as to _require_ the use of external
> help?  the language
> 
> 	#!/bin/rc
> 	cat $* | tr '^@' '()' | lisp
> 
> would benefit from ^-@ matching, but aside from contrived examples
> i can't understand what more you want your text editor to do.

I would like for the text editor to tell me (with a single click) where
the start/end of a construction (be it function/if/while/...) is, if i
am at the end/start. sort of balancing the parantheses(sp?).
this is only neccessary if the language is not always visually balanced, like
a few languages are (ex: python).


> The various ML dialects share the same flaw in their syntax.
> They lack a simple property I call editor friendliness.  An editor
> friendly language has the property that a simple calculation
> is all that is needed to locate the beginning of an expression when
> one is at the end of an expression.
> 
> As you can guess, Lisp is a very editor friendly language.  
> Because of this fact, an experienced Emacs user realizes
> nearly all of the benefits of structure based editing without
> suffering from its restrictions.
> 	- John D. Ramsdell
> 
> The various Lisp dialects share the same flaw in their syntax.
> They lack a simple property I call human friendliness.  A human
> friendly language has the property that syntactic constructs are
> different enough from one another that a simple visual inspection
> is all that is needed to locate the beginning of an expression when
> one is at the end of an expression.
> 
> As you can guess, Lisp is a very human unfriendly language.
> Because of this fact, an experienced Lisp user realizes that it
> is virtually impossible to write Lisp programs of any size without
> substantial mechanical assistance.
> 	- Andrew Koenig
> 

if the 'human friendly language' allows free formatting of 'syntactic
constructs' it will be _very_ difficult for 'a simple visual
inspection' to _always_ 'locate the beginning of an expression when one
is at the end of an expression'. IMHO.

(btw, i normally write lisp programs with the expectation of having
'substantial mechanical assistance' in saveing/running them. it is
therefore prefectly ok, i think, to assume the presence of such
assistance.)


bengt



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2000-08-18 15:34 [9fans] Re: Solaris thread scheaduling rob pike
     [not found] ` <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2000-08-02 14:48   ` [9fans] pipefile rob pike
2000-08-02 15:49     ` James A. Robinson
2000-08-18 20:25   ` [9fans] Re: Solaris thread scheaduling Tom Duff
2000-09-06 21:59   ` [9fans] Reliable Cray Y-MP C90 Supercomputer rob pike
2000-09-06 22:02     ` James A. Robinson
2000-09-06 22:14       ` Boyd Roberts
2000-09-06 22:11     ` Boyd Roberts
2000-09-07 22:18   ` [9fans] new versions of graphics programs? Tom Duff
2000-11-01 22:23   ` [9fans] /n/smtp rob pike
2000-11-01 22:38     ` Scott Schwartz
2000-11-24  0:41   ` [9fans] Crazy idea... or a new project? rob pike
2000-11-24  0:48     ` Boyd Roberts
2000-11-24 22:13     ` Scott Schwartz
2000-11-24 22:24       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-02-06 17:11   ` [9fans] azerty [french] keyboard support rob pike
2001-02-06 19:10     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-02-06 19:23     ` Dan Cross
2001-02-07 15:23   ` [9fans] 9p2k, fsync rob pike
2001-02-07 18:42     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-02-08  1:19     ` Dan Cross
2001-02-08  9:43       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-02-14 13:51   ` [9fans] isatty rob pike
2001-02-14 16:42     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-03-26 14:12   ` [9fans] sam mod for delete-forward rob pike
2001-03-26 15:37     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-03-27  8:25       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-03-27 14:01         ` Sam
2001-03-27 16:51           ` Dan Cross
2001-03-28  8:37             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-03-29  8:26               ` Boyd Roberts
2001-03-26 15:42     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-05-10 14:59   ` [9fans] snprint(), getfields() specification rob pike
2001-05-10 16:42     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-05-10 18:13     ` Steve Kilbane
2001-05-10 21:38       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-11  6:51         ` Steve Kilbane
2001-05-19 14:14   ` Re[4]: [9fans] home, end ^h^j^k^l rob pike
2001-05-19 14:26     ` Re[6]: " Matt H
2001-05-19 22:45       ` [9fans] ls -m Scott Schwartz
2001-05-19 22:50         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-19 15:35     ` Re[4]: [9fans] home, end ^h^j^k^l James A. Robinson
2001-05-19 20:36     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-19 23:30     ` Richard Elberger
2001-05-20  2:37     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-20  7:03     ` Lucio De Re
2001-05-20 11:16     ` paurea
2001-05-20 13:11       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-20 13:04     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-23  8:24     ` Randolph Fritz
2001-05-23  8:46       ` Re[6]: " Matt H
2001-05-23  9:04         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-20  0:16   ` [9fans] ls -m rob pike
2001-05-20  0:31     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-20  1:38     ` [9fans] mouse vs key Scott Schwartz
2001-05-20  6:29       ` Dan Cross
2001-05-20  8:09       ` Matt H
2001-05-20 11:35         ` Re[2]: [9fans] mouse vs key - nethack matt
2001-05-20 13:13           ` Boyd Roberts
2001-05-20 12:50         ` [9fans] mouse vs key Boyd Roberts
2001-05-29  4:27   ` [9fans] src vs db rob pike
2001-05-29  4:37     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-11 19:22   ` [9fans] sam vs acme rob pike
2001-07-11 20:08     ` James A. Robinson
2001-08-14 12:54   ` [9fans] User Interface rob pike
2001-08-14 15:01     ` James A. Robinson
2001-08-16 13:45     ` phaet0n
2001-08-20  8:57     ` Randolph Fritz
2001-12-02  3:10   ` [9fans] plumb rob pike
2001-12-02  3:31     ` Scott Schwartz
2002-01-30  5:52   ` [9fans] venti rob pike
2002-01-30  6:23     ` George Michaelson
2002-01-30  8:07     ` paurea
2002-01-30 11:17     ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-01  6:20   ` Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd) rob pike
2002-03-01  6:34     ` George Michaelson
2002-03-01 12:04     ` Boyd Roberts
2002-04-27 16:35   ` [9fans] Fourth Release of Plan 9 Now Available rob pike, esq.
2002-04-27 18:24     ` Scott Schwartz
2002-04-27 22:14     ` Laura Creighton
2002-04-29  9:37     ` Andrew
2002-06-28 16:49   ` [9fans] dumb question rob pike, esq.
2002-06-29  2:23     ` Scott Schwartz
2000-09-07 21:57 [9fans] new versions of graphics programs? rob pike
2000-09-07 22:50 ` Jim Choate
     [not found]   ` <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
2000-09-07 22:35     ` Tom Duff
2000-09-07 23:24       ` Jim Choate
2000-09-08 15:28         ` please_no_spam_to_
     [not found]           ` <D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk>
2000-09-08 16:43             ` Tom Duff
2001-06-09 17:22 [9fans] could those of you who have students check this out for forsyth
2001-06-09 18:50 ` [9fans] Re: the 'science' in computer science andrey mirtchovski
2001-06-09 17:56   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-11  8:27     ` pac
2001-06-11 15:19     ` Dan Cross
2001-06-11 21:43       ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found]       ` <0cb501c0f2bf$97cacea0$e8b7c6d4@SOMA>
2001-06-11 22:43         ` paurea
2001-06-12 14:18           ` Dan Cross
2001-06-12 15:50             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-12 18:48               ` Dan Cross
2001-06-12  0:09   ` Scott Merrilees
2001-06-12  0:16     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-12  0:42       ` Scott Merrilees
2001-06-12  1:08         ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found]   ` <0cc301c0f2c0$78949560$e8b7c6d4@SOMA>
2001-06-12 14:12     ` Dan Cross
2001-06-16 23:34   ` Matt
2001-06-28 21:29     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-28 22:03       ` Matt
2001-06-28 23:20         ` George Michaelson
2001-06-29 21:27           ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-18 15:49           ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-06-29  4:30         ` Lucio De Re
     [not found] <vikki@proweb.co.uk>
2001-06-10 17:32 ` [9fans] string to list? vikki
2001-06-10 17:47   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-10 17:55   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-10 18:03   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-06-10 21:48     ` Matt
2001-06-10 22:24       ` Scott Schwartz
2001-06-10 22:30         ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found] <matt@proweb.co.uk>
2001-06-12  0:39 ` [9fans] help, i'm in a wet paper bag and I can't get out Matt
2001-06-12  0:55   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-06-12  1:12     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-12  1:00   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-12  1:30     ` Jonathan Sergent
2001-06-15  8:27     ` Hermann Samso
2001-06-15 11:53       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-15 12:18         ` Matt
2001-06-15 14:01         ` Matt
2001-06-15 14:25           ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-26 16:33 [9fans] bitsy question John Packer
2001-06-26 17:10 ` [9fans] " Dan Cross
2001-06-26 19:51   ` John Packer
2001-06-26 20:34     ` Dan Cross
2001-06-29 22:32       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-06-27  1:15     ` [9fans] Two cpu servers? Ish Rattan
2001-06-26 20:09   ` [9fans] Re: bitsy question John Packer
2001-06-26 20:36     ` Dan Cross
2001-06-26 20:18   ` Latchesar Ionkov
2001-06-26 20:28     ` Matt
2001-06-26 22:13       ` Steve Kilbane
2001-07-12  8:42 [9fans] architectures forsyth
2001-07-12 13:56 ` Laura Creighton
2001-07-12 16:13 ` Ozan Yigit
2001-07-12 16:33   ` Matt
2001-07-12 18:12     ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-12 18:16       ` Martin Harriss
2001-07-12 18:43       ` Dan Cross
2001-07-13 14:52         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-13 15:13           ` Boyd Roberts
2001-10-25 17:55 [9fans] Virtual memory in BSD and Plan9 Russ Cox
2001-10-25 18:29 ` William Josephson
2001-10-26  8:09   ` [9fans] acme bug/annoyance? Matt
2001-10-26 11:36     ` rob pike
2001-10-26 14:43       ` Scott Schwartz
2001-10-29 10:16   ` [9fans] Virtual memory in BSD and Plan9 John S. Dyson
2002-01-20 20:02 [9fans] Getting started in Plan9 - help Roshan James
2002-01-20 21:01 ` Matt H
2002-01-20 22:02   ` Scott Schwartz
2002-01-22  9:54     ` ozan s yigit
2002-01-23 10:05       ` Bakul Shah
2002-01-21 10:22   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-01-21 10:40     ` John Murdie
2002-01-20 21:03 ` William S.
2002-01-20 21:34 ` William Josephson
2002-01-21  6:53 ` cej
2002-03-01  2:51 Fwd: Re: [9fans] samuel (fwd) Sam
2002-03-01 16:04 Russ Cox
2002-02-02 17:05 ` Matt H
2002-03-01 17:12   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-04 10:04 ` David Rubin
2002-03-01 16:15 rob pike
2002-03-04 10:04 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-03-05  9:40   ` ozan s yigit
2002-03-06  9:51     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-03-01 17:13 Bengt Kleberg
2002-03-01 17:29 anothy
2002-03-01 17:58 Russ Cox
2002-03-05  9:22 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-04  0:21 Andrew Simmons
2002-03-05  9:34 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-04 11:43 Bengt Kleberg
2002-03-04 14:02 ` Howard Trickey
2002-03-05  9:41   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-03-05 10:42   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-04 14:41 Russ Cox
2002-03-04 15:24 Bengt Kleberg
2002-03-05  9:41 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-03-05 10:04   ` George Michaelson
2002-03-06  9:51     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-06 15:56       ` ozan s yigit
2002-03-07  9:56         ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-07 16:46           ` ozan s yigit
2002-03-07 17:55             ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-08  9:59               ` ozan s. yigit
2002-03-06 19:39       ` Andrew Simmons
2002-03-05 10:18   ` Boyd Roberts

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