Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
pet peeves?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sat, Sep 25 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?

Do you check Emacs bug reports too? I have the feeling that they are
often unread.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> Do you check Emacs bug reports too? I have the feeling that they are
> often unread.

No, where are the Emacs bugs?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sat, Sep 25 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> No, where are the Emacs bugs?

I think I saw them hanging out there:

  http://debbugs.gnu.org/

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Frank Schmitt]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?

I don't know if it counts as a bug, but I hate, that when Outlook users
add images using cid: to their mails, they are only visible in the HTML
view but not as an attachment in plain text view.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> I think I saw them hanging out there:
>
>   http://debbugs.gnu.org/

That's a very tidy bug tracker.  Either nobody files bugs, or somebody
is quite active in closing them.  :-)

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-09-25 22:44 +0200, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:
>
>> I think I saw them hanging out there:
>>
>>   http://debbugs.gnu.org/
>
> That's a very tidy bug tracker.  Either nobody files bugs, or somebody
> is quite active in closing them.  :-)

Try http://debbugs.gnu.org/gnus and you should see some interesting
things. :-)

Sven

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sat, Sep 25 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?

One that is annoying and that I got this morning:

http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=6961

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sat, Sep 25 2010, Julien Danjou wrote:

> One that is annoying and that I got this morning:
>
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=6961

Well, I sent that too fast. I only have the latest part of the bug
report here:

    SPC ignores images in the article buffer, and consequently the
    scrolling with large images is weird. It's better (although not
    perfect) using the standard emacs scrolling commands (C-v M-v, etc)

Got this this morning with gnus-html-renderer, so it's probably not
related to the renderer but to the way SPC does the scrolling.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> Got this this morning with gnus-html-renderer, so it's probably not
> related to the renderer but to the way SPC does the scrolling.

Yes.  That's the rationale behind `gnus-max-image-proportion', really.
Images that are too big are a horror to deal with in Emacs, but it's not
a Gnus bug...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:

> Try http://debbugs.gnu.org/gnus and you should see some interesting
> things. :-)

That's almost nothing.  :-)

Now, how do I close bugs and stuff?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:

> I don't know if it counts as a bug, but I hate, that when Outlook users
> add images using cid: to their mails, they are only visible in the HTML
> view but not as an attachment in plain text view.

Hm...  adding attachments to those parts would be kinda inconsistent,
wouldn't it?  But it's kind of what
`gnus-mime-display-multipart-as-mixed' does.

I just used to tap `C-d' to see any cid: parts I was interested in,
which was like never.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Frank Schmitt]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:
>
>> Try http://debbugs.gnu.org/gnus and you should see some interesting
>> things. :-)
>
> That's almost nothing.  :-)
>
> Now, how do I close bugs and stuff?

The interface is rather fiddly. It works by sending mails including
commands to the e-mail address specific for this bug. See
http://debbugs.gnu.org/server-control.html

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:

> The interface is rather fiddly. It works by sending mails including
> commands to the e-mail address specific for this bug. See
> http://debbugs.gnu.org/server-control.html

Hm.  Kinda awkward if you're doing drive-by stuff...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Hm.  Kinda awkward if you're doing drive-by stuff...

Time for an nndebbugs backend?

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Russ Allbery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net> writes:

>> The interface is rather fiddly. It works by sending mails including
>> commands to the e-mail address specific for this bug. See
>> http://debbugs.gnu.org/server-control.html

> Hm.  Kinda awkward if you're doing drive-by stuff...

It's the same system we use for Debian, and for Debian there's a script
(bts) in the devscripts package that completely automates sending mail.
So I'd just type things like:

    bts tag 435 confirmed , tag 437 wontfix , close 478

at the command line and all the right things happen.  I don't know how
difficult it would be to repoint bts at the Emacs bug tracker.  It
shouldn't be particularly hard.

People in Debian are strongly encouraged to close bugs only by copying
NNNN-close@bugs.debian.org in the e-mail message explaining why you're
closing the bug.  That best practice ensures that people get an
explanation rather than the bug just being quietly closed.  I don't know
if Emacs has a similar policy.

The idea of the BTS design is to let you do nearly everything in e-mail as
part of replying to the user's bug, without needing to interact with some
other interface very much.  You can, for instance, just add the bug
commands to the start of an e-mail reply and bcc the control address.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> Time for an nndebbugs backend?

Heh.  That's a good idea.  Does debbugs have an API of some sort?  Where
you can get at the data without web scraping?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> The idea of the BTS design is to let you do nearly everything in e-mail as
> part of replying to the user's bug, without needing to interact with some
> other interface very much.  You can, for instance, just add the bug
> commands to the start of an e-mail reply and bcc the control address.

Yeah, responding and closing bugs (etc) via email is very convenient --
but only if you have the email to respond to.  I'm looking at the
tracker, and it has stuff from 2008 in it, and clicking around the web
interface, and then copy/pasting into Gnus to respond to it doesn't seem
very attractive.

So if Gnus could have a backend to read the stuff, then responding would
be as simple as `F'.  Web scraping is as yucky as ever, though.  Can it
output the data in a machine-readable way?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Russ Allbery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

>> The idea of the BTS design is to let you do nearly everything in e-mail
>> as part of replying to the user's bug, without needing to interact with
>> some other interface very much.  You can, for instance, just add the
>> bug commands to the start of an e-mail reply and bcc the control
>> address.

> Yeah, responding and closing bugs (etc) via email is very convenient --
> but only if you have the email to respond to.

M-x debian-bug-get-bug-as-email downloads a Debian bug mbox and drops it
into a ephemeral nnfolder group for me in Gnus, from which I read and
reply to messages.  The implementation is in the debian-el package in
Debian, in the debian-bug.el elisp file in that package.  I suspect it
wouldn't be hard to get it working with the Emacs BTS as well, if no one
else has already done so.

> So if Gnus could have a backend to read the stuff, then responding would
> be as simple as `F'.  Web scraping is as yucky as ever, though.  Can it
> output the data in a machine-readable way?

If you look at, say:

    http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=50

note the "view this report as an mbox folder" link.

The bug metadata, like tags and whatnot, is available via SOAP normally;
I'm not sure if that's set up with the Emacs BTS as well.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Oh, wow!

Each bug is a Unix mbox!

http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?mbox=yes;bug=5656

Writing a debbugs backend should be pretty trivial.

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nndebbugs (was: Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?)

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

I think the most interesting interface would be if you gave it an URL
like:

http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gnus

And then it creates a group based on all the bugs on that page.

This means downloading the mbox file for each bug report, so for
projects with many outstanding bugs, it would be slow to hit `M-g'.

In addition, nndebbugs needs to maintain a Message-ID/article number
cache, but that should be easy enough...

So it would basically be nnfolder with some extra fetch/mapping logic.

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Re: nndebbugs

[Russ Allbery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I think the most interesting interface would be if you gave it an URL
> like:

> http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gnus

> And then it creates a group based on all the bugs on that page.

Hm, I wonder if there's any way to generate an "article" for each bug,
which if you open it is treated like a digest of the bug discussion.
Otherwise, I think the threading between bugs and inside bugs is going to
make matters rather confusing.

I don't know what the Emacs SOAP implementation looks like, but way faster
than parsing the HTML output there to get a list of bugs would be the
elisp equivalent of:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use SOAP::Lite;
our $URL       = 'http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/soap.cgi';
our $NAMESPACE = 'Debbugs/SOAP/1';
my $soap = SOAP::Lite->uri ($NAMESPACE)->proxy ($URL);
$soap->transport->env_proxy;
my $bugs = $soap->get_bugs (package => 'gnus')->result;
print join ("\n", @$bugs);

That SOAP call returns an array of all the bug numbers assigned to that
package.  You can also filter on status, of course.

I just tested the above Perl code and it does the right thing with the GNU
debbugs.

> This means downloading the mbox file for each bug report, so for
> projects with many outstanding bugs, it would be slow to hit `M-g'.

If you do this as an "article" per bug, you'd only have to fetch when
someone actually read that article.

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Re: nndebbugs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> Hm, I wonder if there's any way to generate an "article" for each bug,
> which if you open it is treated like a digest of the bug discussion.
> Otherwise, I think the threading between bugs and inside bugs is going to
> make matters rather confusing.

If the messages have References and stuff, it should work as a normal
mail group.  If not, it'll still gather threads based on Subject...  so
it shouldn't be more confusing than a mailing list from 1992.  :-)

> I don't know what the Emacs SOAP implementation looks like, but way faster
> than parsing the HTML output there to get a list of bugs would be the
> elisp equivalent of:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> use SOAP::Lite;
> our $URL       = 'http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/soap.cgi';
> our $NAMESPACE = 'Debbugs/SOAP/1';
> my $soap = SOAP::Lite->uri ($NAMESPACE)->proxy ($URL);
> $soap->transport->env_proxy;
> my $bugs = $soap->get_bugs (package => 'gnus')->result;
> print join ("\n", @$bugs);
>
> That SOAP call returns an array of all the bug numbers assigned to that
> package.  You can also filter on status, of course.
>
> I just tested the above Perl code and it does the right thing with the GNU
> debbugs.

Right.  I don't think Emacs has SOAP support at all.  Could you have
your perl script dump out the XML structure, and perhaps Gnus could just
send that over "as is" to the server?

On the other hand, scraping the HTML to find the bug numbers is really
easy.  All the links are like

  http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=50

so it just has to get the HTML, look for "bug=[0-9]+", and there you
have it...  

> If you do this as an "article" per bug, you'd only have to fetch when
> someone actually read that article.

Gnus backends don't really support "deferred" fetching of stuff like
that...

I think one-group-per-component makes sense.  I mean, the important
thing is that you can read all new comments on all the bugs you're
interested in, isn't it?  If you have to take an extra step to inspect
each bug, it's kinda ... boring...

However, I've done some benchmarking, and if there's 100 bugs in your
set, then entering the "full" group will take 45 seconds on the Emacs
tracker.  That's way too slow to be useful.

Does the SOAP interface by any chance return more metadata -- like, for
instance, how many replies there have been to each bug, or the last time
it was updated, or anything else that can be used by nndebbugs to say
"no, I don't need to download that one, since I've already done so once
already".

Alternatively again, nndebbugs could return a list of groups -- one per
bug entry.  Then updating any single one would be fast.  But there would
be a whole lot of groups, and that's not nice, either...

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Re: nndebbugs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Here's an Emacs SOAP library, by the way.

http://code.google.com/p/emacs-soap-client/

And Log_Modified here is what's needed to make the Gnus interface speedy
enough, I think:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebbugsSoapInterface

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Re: nndebbugs

[Russ Allbery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

>> Hm, I wonder if there's any way to generate an "article" for each bug,
>> which if you open it is treated like a digest of the bug discussion.
>> Otherwise, I think the threading between bugs and inside bugs is going
>> to make matters rather confusing.

> If the messages have References and stuff, it should work as a normal
> mail group.  If not, it'll still gather threads based on Subject...  so
> it shouldn't be more confusing than a mailing list from 1992.  :-)

Yeah, but what you get is a group that contains a discussion of every bug,
which means that you've lost the structure that associated particular
threads with particular bugs.

I don't know that it's a big deal, although I know I wouldn't want to
read, say, the bugs on debian-policy that way, since each bug often
contains multiple threads and I want to see only the threads related to
the bug that I care about when I'm working on something.

> Right.  I don't think Emacs has SOAP support at all.  Could you have
> your perl script dump out the XML structure, and perhaps Gnus could just
> send that over "as is" to the server?

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<soap:Envelope xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
               xmlns:soapenc="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
               xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
               soap:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
               xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">
  <soap:Body>
    <get_bugs xmlns="Debbugs/SOAP/1">
      <c-gensym3 xsi:type="xsd:string">package</c-gensym3>
      <c-gensym5 xsi:type="xsd:string">gnus</c-gensym5>
    </get_bugs>
  </soap:Body>
</soap:Envelope>

I don't know how much of that xmlns cruft is actually required as opposed
to just being default behavior.

> On the other hand, scraping the HTML to find the bug numbers is really
> easy.  All the links are like

>   http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=50

> so it just has to get the HTML, look for "bug=[0-9]+", and there you
> have it...  

Yeah, that might be easier than parsing the XML structure of the retured
SOAP array when you don't have a SOAP library available to use.

>> If you do this as an "article" per bug, you'd only have to fetch when
>> someone actually read that article.

> Gnus backends don't really support "deferred" fetching of stuff like
> that...

Didn't you just implement something sort of like that for nnimap?  :)  (I
realize that it's a bit different and you probably don't want to have to
enter something explicit to fetch the rest of the article, but it's a
similar idea.)

> I think one-group-per-component makes sense.  I mean, the important
> thing is that you can read all new comments on all the bugs you're
> interested in, isn't it?  If you have to take an extra step to inspect
> each bug, it's kinda ... boring...

Well, it depends on what you're using the backend for.  Yeah, if you're
just keeping up with bugs, that works, but generally some mailing list is
subscribed to the bug traffic for a particular component anyway, so that's
kind of uninteresting.  I'd rather just read that traffic as a regular
mailing list, which is going to be a fair bit faster since it's coming
from my local mail server.

I see the primary use of a dedicated backend as a way to go back and work
on some previous bug, or catch up on a bunch of bug backlog that you
didn't keep in your mail for some reason, in which case I think I'd want
to work on one bug at a time.

> Does the SOAP interface by any chance return more metadata -- like, for
> instance, how many replies there have been to each bug, or the last time
> it was updated, or anything else that can be used by nndebbugs to say
> "no, I don't need to download that one, since I've already done so once
> already".

It returns some stuff:

    http://wiki.debian.org/DebbugsSoapInterface

I think log_modified might be what you want.

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Re: nndebbugs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> Yeah, that might be easier than parsing the XML structure of the retured
> SOAP array when you don't have a SOAP library available to use.

I had a peek at the HTML from the Emacs debbugs page:

<li><div class="shortbugstatus">
  <a href="bugreport.cgi?bug=1034">#1034</a>
  [<font face="fixed"><span class="link" onclick="javascript:extra_status_visible(1034)"><abbr title="normal">n</abbr>|&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></font>]
  [<a class="submitter" href="pkgreport.cgi?package=emacs">emacs</a>, <a class="submitter" href="pkgreport.cgi?package=gnus">gnus</a>]
  <a href="bugreport.cgi?bug=1034">23.0.60; The attached mail crashes Emacs when viewed with Gnus</a>
  <div id="extra_status_1034" class="shortbugstatusextra">
  <span>Reported by: <a href="pkgreport.cgi?submitter=tassilo%40member.fsf.org">Tassilo Horn &lt;tassilo &lt;at&gt; member.fsf.org&gt;</a>;</span>
  <span>Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:00:03 UTC;</span>
<span>Severity: normal;</span>
<span></span>
<span><strong>Filed 1 year and 364 days ago</strong>;</span>
<span><strong>Modified 282 days ago</strong>;</span>
</div>
</div>

The "Modified X days ago" thing could be used as a hint whether
nndebbugs needs to update anything...

> Didn't you just implement something sort of like that for nnimap?  :)  (I
> realize that it's a bit different and you probably don't want to have to
> enter something explicit to fetch the rest of the article, but it's a
> similar idea.)

Hm...  true...

> I see the primary use of a dedicated backend as a way to go back and work
> on some previous bug, or catch up on a bunch of bug backlog that you
> didn't keep in your mail for some reason, in which case I think I'd want
> to work on one bug at a time.

Yes, that's how I see myself using it, too.  There's old bugs there, and
I just want to read them in a pleasant way.  Most of them will be closed
with a single comment, probably, and if discussion is necessary, I'd
rather do it via the mailing list.

So it's basically more geared towards "let me get at all the open bugs,
and let me interact with them quickly".

So perhaps keeping a article mapping thing going at all isn't necessary?
Just do a totally ephemeral group based on all the mboxes from the
area.  You scan the stuff, you answer and close stuff, but the Gnus and
the backend doesn't keep track of what you've read and what you haven't
read.

That would be extremely simple to implement.  :-)

But that might be just too simplistic.  Even though you wouldn't be
using that as a way to carry on discussions, it's still not nice to read
things more than once...

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Re: nndebbugs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Hey, look what I found:

(gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group 50)

It's already in Gnus.  Only as an ephemeral bug-by-bug thing, though, so
you have to know the bug ID...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Nils Ackermann]

There is an annoying and long standing bug involving total-expire and
the drafts group; details and a minimal example to reproduce it are in
the threads

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66523

and

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66817

It is still present (git pull this afternoon, GNU Emacs 23.1.1
(i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2010-03-29 on
rothera, modified by Debian)

I don't see the original bug report, it was sent with the following
headers:

  From: Nils Ackermann <nils@ackermath.info>
  Reply-To: nils-dated-1213237429.39274f@ackermath.info
  Subject: drafts and expiry-target problem and solution
  Content-ID: <32635.1243685622.4@localhost.localdomain>
  Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:04:22 -0600
  Lines: 200
  User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux)
  Message-ID: <87r6eevweh.fsf@pascal.matem.unam.mx>
  X-Draft-From: ("nnweb:878x0mxdfc.fsf" "")
  To: bugs@gnus.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys)

Unfortunately I don't have the body anymore, but the information is all
there in the threads.

My solution in the bug report caused problems elsewhere (see the second
thread).  I've given up on it, it's too deeply buried in the internal
logic of gnus for me.

If you fixed this I'd be thrilled.

Cheers,
Nils

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:

> There is an annoying and long standing bug involving total-expire and
> the drafts group; details and a minimal example to reproduce it are in
> the threads
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66523
>
> and
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/66817

Those are long threads.  :-)

Could you give a summary of how the bug displays itself now, and send
backtraces etc?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Nils Ackermann]

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Could you give a summary of how the bug displays itself now, and send
> backtraces etc?

Using a clean slate and the .gnus file


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do the following:

Write email, save it, send it.  Do it again.  Second time gives error:
`Selecting deleted buffer'.

Expectation would be no error, because overriding expiry-target in
drafts group parameters.

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Selecting deleted buffer")
  nnml-add-nov("archive" 6 [nil "test 4" "Gnus Test <gnustest@thysbe.localdomain>" "Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:26:11 -0500" "<81sk0x9r5m.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id>" nil 0 0 "thysbe.fqdn.ackermath.info archive:6" ((To . "nils"))])
  nnml-save-mail((("archive" . 6)) "" t)
  nnml-request-accept-article("archive" "" nil)
  gnus-request-accept-article("nnml:archive" nil nil t)
  nnmail-expiry-target-group("nnml:archive" "drafts")
  nnmh-request-expire-articles((4) "drafts" nil t)
  apply(nnmh-request-expire-articles ((4) "drafts" nil t))
  nnoo-parent-function(nndraft nnmh-request-expire-articles ((4) "drafts" nil t))
  nndraft-request-expire-articles((4) "drafts" nil t)
  message-disassociate-draft()
  message-send(nil)
  message-send-and-exit(nil)
  call-interactively(message-send-and-exit nil nil)


The upshot is: setting an nnml archive group as expiry target globally
and (expiry-target . delete) for the draft group (which is the default)
does not work for saved drafts.  After sending a saved article from the
drafts group gnus attempts to expire twice instead of simply deleting
the article.

Cheers,
Nils

Re: nndebbugs

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>:

> If you do this as an "article" per bug, you'd only have to fetch when
> someone actually read that article.

How about subscribing to bugs you start working on (eg. triggered by
downloading the mbox), and have client side filtering that sends
incoming message to the appropriate nndebugs folder created from the
mbox?

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Sivaram Neelakantan]

On Sun, Sep 26 2010,Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?

ummm....yes.  G z renumbers the articles but the marks/article counts
 seem to be messed up.

I posted on the gnus user lists and would like to know whether it is a
bug and how to go around fixing that.

http://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english@gnu.org/msg08756.html

 sivaram
 -- 

Re: nndebbugs

[Russ Allbery]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>:

>> If you do this as an "article" per bug, you'd only have to fetch when
>> someone actually read that article.

> How about subscribing to bugs you start working on (eg. triggered by
> downloading the mbox), and have client side filtering that sends
> incoming message to the appropriate nndebugs folder created from the
> mbox?

I've always leaned away from subscribing to bugs because it felt like I'd
accumulated a virtually unlimited number of subscriptions over time, and I
don't like having lots of subscriptions.  But that's mostly a
superstitious objection; I can't think of anything specific it would hurt.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: nndebbugs

[Michael Albinus]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> I see the primary use of a dedicated backend as a way to go back and work
>> on some previous bug, or catch up on a bunch of bug backlog that you
>> didn't keep in your mail for some reason, in which case I think I'd want
>> to work on one bug at a time.
>
> Yes, that's how I see myself using it, too.  There's old bugs there, and
> I just want to read them in a pleasant way.  Most of them will be closed
> with a single comment, probably, and if discussion is necessary, I'd
> rather do it via the mailing list.

The major adavantage of accessing debbugs by the SOAP interface would be
to have a query mecahmism. Something like "Show me all bug reports
submitted between 20100101 and 20100131, and related to package gnus" etc.
Often enough, I find myself in remembering vaguely about a bug, but I'm
not able to find it in my archives.

The SOAP interface allows such kind of searching. But there are
limitations: no full text search is possible, and it is not possible to
sort the results server-side (and then say "just return the first 20 hits").

Another advantage having the SOAP interface integrated into Gnus would
be generating of preformatted control messages. That means you might be
able to compose the correct message to close the bug by hitting "B C" or
so.

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Tassilo Horn]

On Saturday 25 September 2010 21:58:06 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?
> Any pet peeves?

I don't know if that qualifies as a bug, but at least it bugs me.

I use gnus-parameters.  The problem with that is that "real" parameters
like gcc-self seem to take the value of the first match while (VARIABLE
FORM) entries seem to be overridden with each match.

That results in some awkward definitions like that, where you write
regexps from most special to most lax for parameters and the the other
way round for VARIABLEs:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-parameters
      `(
        ;; [snip]

	;; Mailing list messages => Sent Items
	(,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists.")
	 (gcc-self . "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.Sent Items"))
	;; Any other group => GCC in that group
	(,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail")
	 (gcc-self . t)
         ;; No scoring in mail groups
	 (gnus-use-scoring nil))
        ;; except for mailinglist groups
	(,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists.")
	 (gnus-use-scoring t))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

IMO, the behavior wrt. (VARIABLE FORM) entries is quite sane.  It allows
for specifying defaults with lax regexps first and let you overridde
those for certain (sets of) groups.  If that would work for parameters,
too, then I'd be able to write:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-parameters
      `(
	;; Any other group => GCC in that group
	(,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail")
	 (gcc-self . t)
	 (gnus-use-scoring nil))
	(,(rx "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.mailinglists.")
	 (gnus-use-scoring t)
	 (gcc-self . "nnimap+Fastmail:INBOX.Sent Items"))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:

> ummm....yes.  G z renumbers the articles but the marks/article counts
>  seem to be messed up.

I see no way that `G z' could ever work.  It only compacts stuff in the
backend, but doesn't provide any way to propagate what it does to Gnus.
So I think it should just be removed.

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> That results in some awkward definitions like that, where you write
> regexps from most special to most lax for parameters and the the other
> way round for VARIABLEs:

Ok; I've now changed it to return the last match instead of the first
match for symbols, too, so that it's consistent.  But it'll probably
upset some people who rely on the old behaviour...

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: nndebbugs

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> I've always leaned away from subscribing to bugs because it felt like I'd
> accumulated a virtually unlimited number of subscriptions over time, and I
> don't like having lots of subscriptions.  But that's mostly a
> superstitious objection; I can't think of anything specific it would hurt.

Yeah...  on second thought, I think I'm not going to proceed with the
persistent nndebbugs idea.  It'll be too slow to actually be used much.
And Gnus already has code to deal with them bug-by-bug in ephemeral
mode, and that's probably enough for 95% of the use cases.

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:

> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Selecting deleted buffer")
>   nnml-add-nov("archive" 6 [nil "test 4" "Gnus Test <gnustest@thysbe.localdomain>" "Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:26:11 -0500" "<81sk0x9r5m.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id>" nil 0 0 "thysbe.fqdn.ackermath.info archive:6" ((To . "nils"))])

I didn't try to reproduce the bug -- instead I just fixed that function
to not using dead buffers, but getting a fresh buffer if it's dead.

This may or may not fix your problems.

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?

I just tried again with the latest git pull and I still cant read my
local dovecot inboxes for dovecot virtual users as I logged before.
,----
| 
|   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|                `(nnimap "riley"
|                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
|                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
|                         (nnimap-stream network)
|                         ))
|   
|   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|                `(nnimap "shamrockpub"
|                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
|                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
|                         (nnimap-stream network)
|                         ))
|   
|   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|                `(nnimap "friends"
|                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
|                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
|                         (nnimap-stream network)
|                         ))
`----

auth is done via auth-sources as usual. nntp auth is done ok.

In my authinfo.gpg:

,----
| machine riley login riley password pass1
| machine friends login friends password pass2
| machine shamrockpub login shamrockpub password pass3
`----

And in my /etc/dovecot.pass which is sourced by my dovecot.conf

,----
| riley:{plain}pass1
| friends:{plain}pass2
| shamrockpub:{plain}pass3
`----

Works fine with 5.13.

The server buffer says the accounts are open but I only see INBOX and
none of the other other imap fodlers. I cant enter INBOX or see any
mails.


cheers

r.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> I just tried again with the latest git pull and I still cant read my
> local dovecot inboxes for dovecot virtual users as I logged before.
> ,----
> | 
> |   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
> |                `(nnimap "riley"
> |                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
> |                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
> |                         (nnimap-stream network)
> |                         ))
> |   
> |   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
> |                `(nnimap "shamrockpub"
> |                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
> |                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
> |                         (nnimap-stream network)
> |                         ))
> |   
> |   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
> |                `(nnimap "friends"
> |                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
> |                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
> |                         (nnimap-stream network)
> |                         ))

So you have several servers that point to the same physical server?

> In my authinfo.gpg:
>
> ,----
> | machine riley login riley password pass1
> | machine friends login friends password pass2
> | machine shamrockpub login shamrockpub password pass3
> `----

Ah, right, you use this to connect with several different user names on
the same server?  Hm.  That won't work with the current nnimap, since it
calls auth-sources with the nnimap-address -- not the nnimap virtual
server name.

I'm fixing this now, and pushing out in a few jiffies.

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Ah, right, you use this to connect with several different user names on
> the same server?  Hm.  That won't work with the current nnimap, since it
> calls auth-sources with the nnimap-address -- not the nnimap virtual
> server name.

> I'm fixing this now, and pushing out in a few jiffies.

It will still look for auth keyed by nnimap-address, I hope...?

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> It will still look for auth keyed by nnimap-address, I hope...?

Yes.

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Tassilo Horn]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Hi Lars,

>> That results in some awkward definitions like that, where you write
>> regexps from most special to most lax for parameters and the the
>> other way round for VARIABLEs:
>
> Ok; I've now changed it to return the last match instead of the first
> match for symbols, too, so that it's consistent.

Seems to work nicely.  Now my gnus-parameters definition has halved its
size. :-)

> But it'll probably upset some people who rely on the old behaviour...

I think, at least everybody who used symbols and variables will be happy
with the new behavior, although they will need to fix their definitions.
And those who only used symbols will only need to reverse their
definition.

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sat, Sep 25 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?

Recently, Gnus started to display other buffers when switching one group
to another with 'n' in summary.

How to reproduce: read the last unread mail of a group, press 'n' twice
to go the next group, and see that another buffer quickly appears in the
bottom window.

That does not looks like a bug, but it is, because often it's an erc
window that appears. Therefore erc-track, the module which tell me if
there's new message in a erc buffer I did not visit for a while, thinks
I've saw the messages.

-- 
Julien Danjou
// ᐰ <julien@danjou.info>   http://julien.danjou.info

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> How to reproduce: read the last unread mail of a group, press 'n' twice
> to go the next group, and see that another buffer quickly appears in the
> bottom window.

Hm...  glitches like that are often associated with process
sentinels/filters/timers and stuff.  Could any of our recent
async-i-ness be triggering this?

I'm not seeing this, by the way.

-- 
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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Charles Philip Chan]

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Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> Recently, Gnus started to display other buffers when switching one
> group to another with 'n' in summary.

I can't reproduce that.

Charles

-- 
"All language designers are arrogant.  Goes with the territory..."
(By Larry Wall)

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Nils Ackermann]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:
>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Selecting deleted buffer")
>>   nnml-add-nov("archive" 6 [nil "test 4" "Gnus Test <gnustest@thysbe.localdomain>" "Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:26:11 -0500" "<81sk0x9r5m.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id>" nil 0 0 "thysbe.fqdn.ackermath.info archive:6" ((To . "nils"))])
>
> I didn't try to reproduce the bug -- instead I just fixed that function
> to not using dead buffers, but getting a fresh buffer if it's dead.
>
> This may or may not fix your problems.

It fixes the error message, but not the main problem.  Expiry
(implicitly called from message.el in message-disassociate-draft) does
not delete the draft but saves in into nnml:archive, in a very ugly way:

    Message-ID: <81fwwwpgvc.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id>
    To: nils
    Subject: test 10
    From: Gnus Test <gnustest@thysbe.localdomain>
    Gcc: nnml:archive
    Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:13:57 -0500
    --text follows this line--
    Lines: 0
    Xref: thysbe.fqdn.ackermath.info archive:2

Note the

    --text follows this line--

that shouldn't be there.  It causes all sorts of problem when the nov
files are generated (messages missing from the overview etc.).

The group parameter  (expiry-target . delete) in "nndraft:drafts" should
override the global (setq nnmail-expiry-target "nnml:archive"), as the
docs claim: 

(info "(gnus) Group Parameters")

I believe that somewhere in the expiry process used by message-mode to
delete the draft, a method is called in the wrong way, not respecting
the group parameters and using the globally set parameters instead.  

The following seem to point to the same bug (before your change it
usually happened that messages wouldn't disappear from the drafts
group):

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39877/match=text+follows+line+draft
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/76958/focus=77262

Cheers,
Nils

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?
> Any pet peeves?

My wishlist:
 - I would like nnimap article editing
 - I would like nnimap agent support for offline refoldering
 - I would like nnimap agent support for offline article editing
 - I would like "warp-to-group" functionality for nnimap nnir search
   matches (I don't need to find the articles' thread which is the
   present functionality, which doesn't work anyway)
 - I would like Ted's gnus-sync completed, and made a more integral part
   of opening groups, and with support for using the new nnimap backend,
   and graceful behaviour when offline

What I could think of offhand.  I'm sure there is more...:-)

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:

> It fixes the error message, but not the main problem. 

Digging a bit deeper here, it seemed like it was fetching the expiry
target of the wrong group.  This may now be fixed.

-- 
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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

> My wishlist:
>  - I would like nnimap article editing

Yes, that would be nice.

>  - I would like nnimap agent support for offline refoldering
>  - I would like nnimap agent support for offline article editing

I'm not planning on handling this.

>  - I would like "warp-to-group" functionality for nnimap nnir search
>    matches (I don't need to find the articles' thread which is the
>    present functionality, which doesn't work anyway)

Yes, that should exist.

-- 
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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andrew Cohen]

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>>>>> "Steinar" == Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

    Steinar> My wishlist: 


[...]

    Steinar> - I would like "warp-to-group" functionality for nnimap
    Steinar> nnir search matches (I don't need to find the articles'
    Steinar> thread which is the present functionality, which doesn't
    Steinar> work anyway) 


I just played around with this. The function gnus-summary-refer-thread
does nothing unless headers are retrieved in nov format. But its easy
enough to hack in something that detects an imap group and finds
articles by reference. I don't know anything about threading, so I just
find the relevant article list and pass it off to
gnus-summary-read-group-1. Works for the 5 minutes I've played with it.



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--- a/gnus-sum.el	2010-09-26 14:53:35.000000000 -0400
+++ b/gnus-sum.el	2010-09-26 14:55:49.000000000 -0400
@@ -8826,26 +8826,38 @@
   (interactive "P")
   (let ((id (mail-header-id (gnus-summary-article-header)))
 	(limit (if limit (prefix-numeric-value limit)
-		 gnus-refer-thread-limit)))
-    (unless (eq gnus-fetch-old-headers 'invisible)
-      (gnus-message 5 "Fetching headers for %s..." gnus-newsgroup-name)
-      ;; Retrieve the headers and read them in.
-      (if (eq (if (numberp limit)
-		  (gnus-retrieve-headers
-		   (list (min
-			  (+ (mail-header-number
-			      (gnus-summary-article-header))
-			     limit)
-			  gnus-newsgroup-end))
-		   gnus-newsgroup-name (* limit 2))
-		;; gnus-refer-thread-limit is t, i.e. fetch _all_
-		;; headers.
-		(gnus-retrieve-headers (list gnus-newsgroup-end)
-				       gnus-newsgroup-name limit))
-	      'nov)
-	  (gnus-build-all-threads)
-	(error "Can't fetch thread from back ends that don't support NOV"))
-      (gnus-message 5 "Fetching headers for %s...done" gnus-newsgroup-name))
+		 gnus-refer-thread-limit))
+	(subject (mail-header-subject (gnus-summary-article-header)))
+	(group (if (string-match "-ephemeral" gnus-newsgroup-name)
+		   (replace-match "" nil t gnus-newsgroup-name)
+		 gnus-newsgroup-name)))
+    (if (string= (car (gnus-group-method group)) "nnimap")
+	(with-current-buffer (nnimap-buffer)
+	  (let ((result (nnimap-command
+			 "UID SEARCH OR HEADER REFERENCES %S HEADER  Message-Id %S" id id)))
+	    (gnus-summary-read-group-1  group t t nil nil
+					(and (car result)
+					     (delete 0 (mapcar #'string-to-number
+							       (cdr (assoc "SEARCH" (cdr result)))))))))
+      (unless (eq gnus-fetch-old-headers 'invisible)
+	(gnus-message 5 "Fetching headers for %s..." gnus-newsgroup-name)
+	;; Retrieve the headers and read them in.
+	(if (eq (if (numberp limit)
+		    (gnus-retrieve-headers
+		     (list (min
+			    (+ (mail-header-number
+				(gnus-summary-article-header))
+			       limit)
+			    gnus-newsgroup-end))
+		     gnus-newsgroup-name (* limit 2))
+		  ;; gnus-refer-thread-limit is t, i.e. fetch _all_
+		  ;; headers.
+		  (gnus-retrieve-headers (list gnus-newsgroup-end)
+					 gnus-newsgroup-name limit))
+		'nov)
+	    (gnus-build-all-threads)
+	  (error "Can't fetch thread from back ends that don't support NOV"))
+	(gnus-message 5 "Fetching headers for %s...done" gnus-newsgroup-name)))
     (gnus-summary-limit-include-thread id)))
 
 (defun gnus-summary-refer-article (message-id)

Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch (was: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?)

[Tassilo Horn]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

Hi Lars!

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?
> Any pet peeves?

Here's another thing that has bugged me for years.

I hit `g' in *Group* and nntp+Gmane:gmane.emacs.orgmode has 2 new
articles (Gmane is an agentized server).  I hit RET on it, and Gnus
starts loading 3 MB before I hit `C-g' after ~10 seconds.  That's in
*nntp-log* then:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
20100926T205029.472 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.orgmode
20100926T205029.764 news.gmane.org XOVER 1-30997
20100926T205033.991 news.gmane.org QUIT
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Then I hit `J s', and the agent fetches the new articles of all groups
(lets say ~100) in only a few seconds.  Thereafter, RET on that group is
fast.

With `J s', the relevant lines in *nntp-log* are:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
20100926T205927.964 news.gmane.org MODE READER
20100926T205928.153 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.orgmode
20100926T205928.248 news.gmane.org XOVER 30996-30997
20100926T205928.846 news.gmane.org ARTICLE 30996
20100926T205928.846 news.gmane.org ARTICLE 30997
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

So why does Gnus issue an XOVER for all articles when I hit RET on a
group with 2 new articles without letting the agent fetch first?

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> So why does Gnus issue an XOVER for all articles when I hit RET on a
> group with 2 new articles without letting the agent fetch first?

You have `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set?

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Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch

[Tassilo Horn]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>> So why does Gnus issue an XOVER for all articles when I hit RET on a
>> group with 2 new articles without letting the agent fetch first?
>
> You have `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set?

Indeed, it is set to 'some.

Ok, the docs say it could seriously impact performance, but maybe a bit
more optimistic variant could be used?  I mean, my agent cache contains
every article to that group for the last year.  So as long as nobody
replies to two different "arms" of a thread that is more than one year
old, everything needed to build non-loose threads is guaranteed to be
already there.

Could there be a new value 'some-but-dont-download-only-new-articles,
which downloads only new articles and tries to build the threads with a
best effort style?  It there's really an article missing, I'm totally
happy with a phantom root.

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

>> You have `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set?
>
> Indeed, it is set to 'some.

Ok; fixed and pushed five minutes ago.  :-)

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gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Dan Christensen]

If I hit `j' in the *Group* buffer, clear the minibuffer, enter `a d
TAB', then I get the following backtrace.  I suspect it is because I'm
using an older emacs23 snapshot.  (I found that I can't get the fonts to
look as good with the released version of emacs23 so I'm sticking with
the snapshot for now.)  I suspect the same error would occur with
emacs22, but I might be wrong.  Probably the new fancy completion code
needs to check that the current emacs version supports that feature.

By the way, this error doesn't happen if I try to copy an article to a
group with `B c' in the *Summary* buffer, so it looks like the new fancy
completion isn't implemented there.  It would be great to have it there
as well (once I upgrade my emacs).

Dan

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function nil)
  signal(void-function (nil))
  completion--some(#[(style) "<non-ascii chars removed>" [style completion-styles-alist string table pred point] 5] (substring basic partial-completion emacs22))
  completion-try-completion("ad" [ 0 nnfolder:condor-users nnfolder:tricia nntp+news\.gmane\.org:gmane\.comp\.python\.pypy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:scott-carmen 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:android 0 sci\.physics\.research 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:soc\.culture\.cuba\.save 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:sage 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...] nil 2)
  completion--do-completion()
  minibuffer-complete()
  call-interactively(minibuffer-complete nil nil)
  completing-read("Group: " [ 0 nnfolder:condor-users nnfolder:tricia nntp+news\.gmane\.org:gmane\.comp\.python\.pypy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:scott-carmen 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:android 0 sci\.physics\.research 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:soc\.culture\.cuba\.save 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:sage 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...] nil nil "nn" gnus-group-history nil)
  apply(completing-read "Group: " [ 0 nnfolder:condor-users nnfolder:tricia nntp+news\.gmane\.org:gmane\.comp\.python\.pypy 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:scott-carmen 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:android 0 sci\.physics\.research 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:soc\.culture\.cuba\.save 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 nnfolder:sage 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ...] nil nil "nn" gnus-group-history nil nil)
  gnus-group-completing-read("Group: " nil nil nil "nn")
  (list (gnus-group-completing-read "Group: " nil nil (gnus-read-active-file-p) (if current-prefix-arg ... ...)))
  call-interactively(gnus-group-jump-to-group nil nil)

gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Dan Christensen]

If I hit `/ N' in an nnimap group, the summary buffer isn't updated with
new articles.

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Robert Pluim]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?
>

One thing that I've noticed is that Gnus' handling of point seems to be
slightly different than before: it now happens that I enter a group, and
I'll be on the 17th article or something, not the first.  I haven't
found any reliable way to tickle it yet, and it's annoying rather than
serious.  If I find a recipe I'll let you know.

Regards

Robert

nnmairix not working again

[Dan Christensen]

For a little while last week, nnmairix worked for me, but it hasn't
worked for a few days.  The search is done correctly, and when I enter
the group I see what looks like the right Summary buffer.  But when I
try to select an article, I get a message like:

Article 5 is blank

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sun, Sep 26 2010, Robert Pluim wrote:

> One thing that I've noticed is that Gnus' handling of point seems to be
> slightly different than before: it now happens that I enter a group, and
> I'll be on the 17th article or something, not the first.  I haven't
> found any reliable way to tickle it yet, and it's annoying rather than
> serious.  If I find a recipe I'll let you know.

Wild guess:

gnus-auto-select-subject default value changed recently.
Maybe try to set it to 'unread?

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Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch

[Tassilo Horn]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

>>> You have `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set?
>>
>> Indeed, it is set to 'some.
>
> Ok; fixed and pushed five minutes ago.  :-)

Wow, works like a charm.

Thanks a ton,
Tassilo

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Robert Pluim]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> On Sun, Sep 26 2010, Robert Pluim wrote:
>
>> One thing that I've noticed is that Gnus' handling of point seems to be
>> slightly different than before: it now happens that I enter a group, and
>> I'll be on the 17th article or something, not the first.  I haven't
>> found any reliable way to tickle it yet, and it's annoying rather than
>> serious.  If I find a recipe I'll let you know.
>
> Wild guess:
>
> gnus-auto-select-subject default value changed recently.
> Maybe try to set it to 'unread?

My description of the behaviour was incomplete: when it happens, there
will often be many unread articles higher in the summary (I sometimes
end up in the middle of an unread thread), plus if I exit the group and
re-enter it I'll usually end up somewhere different, so I don't think
it's gnus-auto-select-subject.

I've played with this some more, it appears that I can only get it to
happen once for a particular group, then never again in the same gnus
session, which leads me to suspect it's something to do with new
articles arriving.

Oh well, it's only a minor peeve, but as Lars has fixed all the nnimap
bugs that *I* care about, I thought I'd mention it.

Robert

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Dan Christensen]

Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

> My description of the behaviour was incomplete: when it happens, there
> will often be many unread articles higher in the summary (I sometimes
> end up in the middle of an unread thread),

For what it's worth, I sometimes see this too.  I haven't watched
carefully enough to see a pattern.

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

> My description of the behaviour was incomplete: when it happens, there
> will often be many unread articles higher in the summary (I sometimes
> end up in the middle of an unread thread), plus if I exit the group and
> re-enter it I'll usually end up somewhere different, so I don't think
> it's gnus-auto-select-subject.

It jumps to the unseen articles first, and if there are none, it jumps
to the first unread article, which is the new default for
`gnus-auto-select-subject'. 

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Re: gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> If I hit `j' in the *Group* buffer, clear the minibuffer, enter `a d
> TAB', then I get the following backtrace.  I suspect it is because I'm
> using an older emacs23 snapshot. (I found that I can't get the fonts to
> look as good with the released version of emacs23 so I'm sticking with
> the snapshot for now.)

I would suspect that this is a bug in the completion code of the
snapshot you're using...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Julien Danjou]

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On Sun, Sep 26 2010, Robert Pluim wrote:

> My description of the behaviour was incomplete: when it happens, there
> will often be many unread articles higher in the summary (I sometimes
> end up in the middle of an unread thread), plus if I exit the group and
> re-enter it I'll usually end up somewhere different, so I don't think
> it's gnus-auto-select-subject.

I still think it is. The default was unread, and now it'ss
unseen-or-unread, which makes Gnus goes to the first unseen, and not
unread.

Am I still wrong? :)

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Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch

[Tassilo Horn]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

>>>> You have `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set?
>>>
>>> Indeed, it is set to 'some.
>>
>> Ok; fixed and pushed five minutes ago.  :-)
>
> Wow, works like a charm.

Hm, maybe that was a bit too early.  It works fine with my nntp groups,
but not with my imap groups.  The nntp servers are all agentized while
the imap ones aren't.  Does that make a difference?

As test, I entered some group with no new articles and looked for a
thread with 2 arms

  Foo
  |- xxx
  | `- Bar
  `- xxx
    `- Baz

and marked Bar and Baz unread.  Then I exited and re-entered the group.
With the agentized nntp groups, Foo was also shown.  With the
un-agentized imap groups, Foo was not shown.

I have to confess that I have no clue if Foo was shown in the imap
groups before your latest change, though.

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> It jumps to the unseen articles first, and if there are none, it jumps
> to the first unread article, which is the new default for
> `gnus-auto-select-subject'. 

I think that explains what I saw.  Thanks!

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:58:06 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
LMI> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
LMI> pet peeves?

nnimap splitting?  Or is that moved somewhere else?

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> nnimap splitting?  Or is that moved somewhere else?

You need to set nnimap-inbox and stuff to get splitting again...  see
the manual for details.  (Yes!  I actually documented this yesterday.
:-))

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:41:23 +0200 Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote: 

SB>  - I would like Ted's gnus-sync completed, and made a more integral part
SB>    of opening groups, and with support for using the new nnimap backend,
SB>    and graceful behaviour when offline

I don't think Lars plans to work on that.  I'll work on it after I get
auth-source improvements done; my TODO list has no time estimates :)

Ted

Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> If I hit `/ N' in an nnimap group, the summary buffer isn't updated with
> new articles.

It works for me...

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Re: Gnus loads too much when entering group before letting the agent fetch

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:

> Hm, maybe that was a bit too early.  It works fine with my nntp groups,
> but not with my imap groups.  The nntp servers are all agentized while
> the imap ones aren't.  Does that make a difference?

Yes, the only change I made was to have the Gnus Agent use its own
headers instead of re-requesting all the headers from the backend when
you have -fetch-old-headers switched on.

> As test, I entered some group with no new articles and looked for a
> thread with 2 arms
>
>   Foo
>   |- xxx
>   | `- Bar
>   `- xxx
>     `- Baz
>
> and marked Bar and Baz unread.  Then I exited and re-entered the group.
> With the agentized nntp groups, Foo was also shown.  With the
> un-agentized imap groups, Foo was not shown.

-fetch-old-headers isn't used with backends that don't support NOV, like
 nnimap.
 
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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Robert Pluim]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> On Sun, Sep 26 2010, Robert Pluim wrote:
>
>> My description of the behaviour was incomplete: when it happens, there
>> will often be many unread articles higher in the summary (I sometimes
>> end up in the middle of an unread thread), plus if I exit the group and
>> re-enter it I'll usually end up somewhere different, so I don't think
>> it's gnus-auto-select-subject.
>
> I still think it is. The default was unread, and now it'ss
> unseen-or-unread, which makes Gnus goes to the first unseen, and not
> unread.
>
> Am I still wrong? :)

I don't know. Leaving aside marks, for me articles have only 2 states:
read and unread. What is 'unseen'? (and if it's "I have not displayed a
summary line for this article before", then the new value of
gnus-auto-select-subject is at best confusing, and at worst wrong :) )

Robert

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

> I don't know. Leaving aside marks, for me articles have only 2 states:
> read and unread. What is 'unseen'? (and if it's "I have not displayed a
> summary line for this article before",

Yes.

> then the new value of gnus-auto-select-subject is at best confusing,
> and at worst wrong :) )

How come?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>
>> nnimap splitting?  Or is that moved somewhere else?
>
> You need to set nnimap-inbox and stuff to get splitting again...  see
> the manual for details.  (Yes!  I actually documented this yesterday.
> :-))

could/should (gnus-load) update the info path to point to the newer gnus
manual in the git build? It would be nice for it to be handled there for
debugging phases like this since one often switches back and forth.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Robert Pluim]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I don't know. Leaving aside marks, for me articles have only 2 states:
>> read and unread. What is 'unseen'? (and if it's "I have not displayed a
>> summary line for this article before",
>
> Yes.
>
>> then the new value of gnus-auto-select-subject is at best confusing,
>> and at worst wrong :) )
>
> How come?

Because the effect (for me) is to have a thread of say 10 unread
articles, with the fifth one selected, when I'm expecting the first
unread article to be selected, because, well, I haven't read it yet. I
don't care that the others are "seen", because they're "unread", which I
believe should trump "seen".

I know, I know, I can customize it, I just find the new default confusing.

Robert

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[James Cloos]

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

LMI> Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:
>> How to reproduce: read the last unread mail of a group, press 'n' twice
>> to go the next group, and see that another buffer quickly appears in the
>> bottom window.

LMI> Hm...  glitches like that are often associated with process
LMI> sentinels/filters/timers and stuff.  Could any of our recent
LMI> async-i-ness be triggering this?

LMI> I'm not seeing this, by the way.

I do see it.  Not every time, just when it takes a bit of time to fetch
the next group.

Usually the Groups buffer shows up.

It looks like gnus kills the Article buffer now, whereas before the
Article buffer stuck around, even after returning to Groups.

If the last para is correct, then if it takes too long after the old
Article buffer is killed and before the new one is created, the last
visitied buffer will show up in the window where Article had been.

AFAICT, it is always the most recently visited, still-extant buffer
which pops in place of Article.

-JimC
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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:

> It looks like gnus kills the Article buffer now, whereas before the
> Article buffer stuck around, even after returning to Groups.

Ah, right.  It must be something related to the
gnus-single-article-buffer default change.  I'll see what I can do about
not actually killing the article buffer until much later...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andreas Schwab]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> Recently, Gnus started to display other buffers when switching one group
> to another with 'n' in summary.
>
> How to reproduce: read the last unread mail of a group, press 'n' twice
> to go the next group, and see that another buffer quickly appears in the
> bottom window.
>
> That does not looks like a bug, but it is, because often it's an erc
> window that appears. Therefore erc-track, the module which tell me if
> there's new message in a erc buffer I did not visit for a while, thinks
> I've saw the messages.

I don't think this is a new bug.  I've also seen that with Gnus 5.13 in
Emacs 23.2, but only if the next buffer in the buffer history happend to
be an erc buffer.

Andreas.

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Re: gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>> If I hit `j' in the *Group* buffer, clear the minibuffer, enter `a d
>> TAB', then I get the following backtrace.  I suspect it is because I'm
>> using an older emacs23 snapshot. (I found that I can't get the fonts to
>> look as good with the released version of emacs23 so I'm sticking with
>> the snapshot for now.)
>
> I would suspect that this is a bug in the completion code of the
> snapshot you're using...

It looks like the same thing happens with a released version of emacs23.
Using this Ubuntu version:

  23.2+1-4ubuntu1~ppa3~jaunty3

started with "emacs23 -q --no-site-file", if I do 

  (push 'substring completion-styles)

and then `C-x b t TAB', I get the same error:

  completion--some: Symbol's function definition is void: nil                     

So maybe we need to check for a new enough version of emacs?

Dan

Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>> If I hit `/ N' in an nnimap group, the summary buffer isn't updated with
>> new articles.
>
> It works for me...

Hmm, it just worked for me with new mail arriving from outside.

Ah, I think I see the pattern.  If the new mail is already marked as
read, then `/ N' won't bring it into the summary buffer.  To reproduce,
while in a summary buffer, copy a read article from the current group to
itself.  Then '/ N' doesn't show the article.  Or while in your Sent
folder, send a message.  `/ N' then doesn't show the Gcc'd copy (since I
have gnus-gcc-mark-as-read set to t).  I believe that `/ N' used to
include all articles marked higher than the highest article seen before.

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Whats the current status with splitting and imap?

My old settings (and without any real testing)

 '(nnimap-split-fancy (quote (: spam-split)))
 '(nnimap-split-inbox "INBOX")
 '(nnimap-split-predicate "UNDELETED")
 '(nnimap-split-rule (quote nnimap-split-fancy))

Seem not to work now. Is there a change or do I have to dig more
locally?

Re: nndebbugs

[Reiner Steib]

On Sun, Sep 26 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Hey, look what I found:
>
> (gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group 50)
>
> It's already in Gnus.  Only as an ephemeral bug-by-bug thing, though, so
> you have to know the bug ID...

See also: emacs/admin/notes/bugtracker in Emacs bzr.

Some threads about adding Emacs commands for the BTS ...

http://thread.gmane.org/87wrzkzdkv.fsf_-_%40marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de
http://thread.gmane.org/87d43lvsvm.fsf%40marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de
http://thread.gmane.org/v97ifeafs8.fsf_-_%40marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>:

> I don't think Lars plans to work on that. 

Nah, I figured it would be you.

> I'll work on it after I get auth-source improvements done; my TODO
> list has no time estimates :)

No worries! :-)

I just wanted to give gnus-sync a bit of publisity.  It's pretty cool,
folks, if you have multiple gnusen reading an overlapping set of nntp
groups, and get tired of seing the same unread articles in multiple
places. 

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com>:

> could/should (gnus-load) update the info path to point to the newer
> gnus manual in the git build? It would be nice for it to be handled
> there for debugging phases like this since one often switches back and
> forth.

Just make sure you don't add a setting for each new start of gnus.  (and
I already am modifying the info path manually.  Of course, with
(gnus-load) taking care of it, I could slim down my ~/.emacs a bit...)

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andrew Cohen]

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>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

    Lars> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
    >> My wishlist: 

    >> - I would like "warp-to-group" functionality for nnimap nnir
    >> search matches (I don't need to find the articles' thread which
    >> is the present functionality, which doesn't work anyway)

    Lars> Yes, that should exist.


Ignore my previous muddled version of this. I've simplified and moved
things into nnir.el. I've only done limited testing but the patch seems
to do the right thing for imap groups. It looks to me like the original
version shouldn't have worked properly on ANY kind of group, but I don't
have any other backends to easily test.


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diff --git a/lisp/nnir.el b/lisp/nnir.el
index db8b397..fe3cc22 100644
--- a/lisp/nnir.el
+++ b/lisp/nnir.el
@@ -704,19 +704,18 @@ and show thread that contains this article."
   (let* ((cur (gnus-summary-article-number))
          (group (nnir-artlist-artitem-group nnir-artlist cur))
          (backend-number (nnir-artlist-artitem-number nnir-artlist cur))
-	 server backend-group)
-    (setq server (nnir-group-server group))
-    (setq backend-group (gnus-group-real-name group))
-    (gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group
-     backend-group
-     (gnus-server-to-method server)
-     t                                  ; activate
-     (cons (current-buffer)
-           'summary)                    ; window config
-     nil
-     (list backend-number))
-    (gnus-summary-limit (list backend-number))
-    (gnus-summary-refer-thread)))
+	 (id (mail-header-id (gnus-summary-article-header))))
+    (if (string= (car (gnus-group-method group)) "nnimap")
+	(with-current-buffer (nnimap-buffer)
+	  (let ((result (nnimap-command
+			 "UID SEARCH OR HEADER REFERENCES %S HEADER  Message-Id %S" id id)))
+	    (gnus-summary-read-group-1 group t t nil nil
+				       (and (car result)
+					    (delete 0 (mapcar #'string-to-number
+							      (cdr (assoc "SEARCH" (cdr result)))))))))
+      (gnus-summary-read-group-1 group t t nil nil (list backend-number))
+      (gnus-summary-limit (list backend-number))
+      (gnus-summary-refer-thread))))
 
 (if (fboundp 'eval-after-load)
     (eval-after-load "gnus-sum"

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Tom Tromey]

>>>>> "Sven" == Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> writes:

Sven> Try http://debbugs.gnu.org/gnus and you should see some interesting
Sven> things. :-)

There are also some gnus bugs that haven't yet been categorized.  If you
search for subjects containing "gnus" you can see some of these:

http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?include=subject%3Agnus;package=emacs

Tom

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Nils Ackermann]

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:
>
>> It fixes the error message, but not the main problem. 
>
> Digging a bit deeper here, it seemed like it was fetching the expiry
> target of the wrong group.  This may now be fixed.

Nope, sorry.

I have minimized the test case even more:

use the following .gnus:


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Start from clean slate.  Compose email, save it (^x^s) and send.
Inspect file ~/Mail/archive:

From nobody Mon Sep 27 11:15:27 2010
Message-ID: <818w2nupr4.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id>
To: nils
Subject: test 40
From: Gnus Test <gnustest@thysbe.localdomain>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:15:25 -0500
--text follows this line--
Lines: 0
Xref: thysbe.fqdn.ackermath.info archive:1
X-Gnus-Article-Number: 1   Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:15:27 -0500

There shouldn't even be anything there because supposedly drafts are
simply deleted after sending.

Of course, the result is the same if removing the setting

  (setq gnus-parameters '(("nndraft:drafts" (expiry-target . delete))))

from the .gnus file.  This only shows that messages from the drafts
group should never be expired when sent, but just deleted, under all
circumstances.

Cheers,
Nils

Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> Ah, I think I see the pattern.  If the new mail is already marked as
> read, then `/ N' won't bring it into the summary buffer.  To reproduce,
> while in a summary buffer, copy a read article from the current group to
> itself.  Then '/ N' doesn't show the article.  Or while in your Sent
> folder, send a message.  `/ N' then doesn't show the Gcc'd copy (since I
> have gnus-gcc-mark-as-read set to t).  I believe that `/ N' used to
> include all articles marked higher than the highest article seen before.

I'm unable to reproduce that.  If I `B c' an article to an open nnimap
group, `/ N' pulls it in.

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Re: gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

>   (push 'substring completion-styles)
>
> and then `C-x b t TAB', I get the same error:
>
>   completion--some: Symbol's function definition is void: nil                     
>
> So maybe we need to check for a new enough version of emacs?

What would a new enough version be, though?  Emacs 24?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:35:29 +0200 Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote: 

SB> I just wanted to give gnus-sync a bit of publisity.  It's pretty cool,
SB> folks, if you have multiple gnusen reading an overlapping set of nntp
SB> groups, and get tired of seing the same unread articles in multiple
SB> places. 

Yeah, if you're in that situation it's very handy.  I'd like to
integrate it with Gnus better, though.

Lars: can you please look at gnus-sync.el and tell me if the way I set
and get the marks is wrong?  I don't know the backends well, so I don't
want to break something unintentionally.  It seems a bit hackish to be
modifying the marks directly instead of through a function.

I think the `gnus-use-backend-marks' variable could be employed for
gnus-sync.el; it could take a function in addition to the current
boolean values (the function would mean "this backend's marks will be
loaded and stored through a funcall").  It would be more logical than
the current setup which is regex-dependent, and would make my life
easier.  A value of t would mean "use your own function to load/store
marks".

Ted

Re: gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>>   (push 'substring completion-styles)
>>
>> and then `C-x b t TAB', I get the same error:
>>
>>   completion--some: Symbol's function definition is void: nil
>>
>> So maybe we need to check for a new enough version of emacs?
>
> What would a new enough version be, though?  Emacs 24?

I think so.  23.2 is the latest stable version, and it doesn't have this
(verified with the version I mentioned before, and also by reading the
*info* docs).

Alternatively, we could just let the user set their own completion
styles.  Maybe they don't like substring completion?  And if they
do like it, they might want it everywhere.

Dan

Re: nnmairix not working again

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> For a little while last week, nnmairix worked for me, but it hasn't
> worked for a few days.  The search is done correctly, and when I enter
> the group I see what looks like the right Summary buffer.  But when I
> try to select an article, I get a message like:

I don't have the mairix stuff installed.  Could somebody have a look at
this? 

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Lars: can you please look at gnus-sync.el and tell me if the way I set
> and get the marks is wrong?  I don't know the backends well, so I don't
> want to break something unintentionally.  It seems a bit hackish to be
> modifying the marks directly instead of through a function.

I think it's reasonable to just set them that way...

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Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>> Ah, I think I see the pattern.  If the new mail is already marked as
>> read, then `/ N' won't bring it into the summary buffer.  To reproduce,
>> while in a summary buffer, copy a read article from the current group to
>> itself.  Then '/ N' doesn't show the article.  Or while in your Sent
>> folder, send a message.  `/ N' then doesn't show the Gcc'd copy (since I
>> have gnus-gcc-mark-as-read set to t).  I believe that `/ N' used to
>> include all articles marked higher than the highest article seen before.
>
> I'm unable to reproduce that.  If I `B c' an article to an open nnimap
> group, `/ N' pulls it in.

Did you try `B c'ing a read article from the current group to itself?
Or Gcc'ing a message to the current group (with gnus-gcc-mark-as-read
set to t)?  Both of those cause the problem for me.  And the latter
happens a lot for me:  I'm triaging my Sent folder, decide to followup
to one of my messages, and then want to file both the old message and
the new followup, but `/ N' doesn't bring the new message in.

When I `B c' a read article from a different group to the currently open
imap group, I do see the article, but it doesn't have it's read mark, so
I think there's a separate bug here too.

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:

>> Digging a bit deeper here, it seemed like it was fetching the expiry
>> target of the wrong group.  This may now be fixed.
>
> Nope, sorry.

Could you edebug through `nndraft-request-expire-articles' and see what
happens? 

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Re: gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Julien Danjou]

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On Mon, Sep 27 2010, Dan Christensen wrote:

> Alternatively, we could just let the user set their own completion
> styles.  Maybe they don't like substring completion?  And if they
> do like it, they might want it everywhere.

I'm currently working on a patch replacing all occurence of
completing-read by a gnus-completing-read, which the user will be able
to customize, like by using ido.

This could be part of it I think.

I'll send it tomorrow for review.

-- 
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// ᐰ <julien@danjou.info>   http://julien.danjou.info

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Andrew Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu> writes:

> Ignore my previous muddled version of this. I've simplified and moved
> things into nnir.el. I've only done limited testing but the patch seems
> to do the right thing for imap groups. It looks to me like the original
> version shouldn't have worked properly on ANY kind of group, but I don't
> have any other backends to easily test.

Looks good, but I can't apply it until the FSF paperwork is in place, I
think. 

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

>  '(nnimap-split-fancy (quote (: spam-split)))
>  '(nnimap-split-inbox "INBOX")
>  '(nnimap-split-predicate "UNDELETED")
>  '(nnimap-split-rule (quote nnimap-split-fancy))
>
> Seem not to work now. Is there a change or do I have to dig more
> locally?

It's nnimap-inbox and stuff.  See the manual for details.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> could/should (gnus-load) update the info path to point to the newer gnus
> manual in the git build? It would be nice for it to be handled there for
> debugging phases like this since one often switches back and forth.

Is there an info load path?

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Re: gnus-group-jump-to-group completion bug

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Julien Danjou <julien@danjou.info> writes:

> I'm currently working on a patch replacing all occurence of
> completing-read by a gnus-completing-read, which the user will be able
> to customize, like by using ido.

Great!

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andrew Cohen]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

    Lars> Andrew Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu> writes:

    Lars> Looks good, but I can't apply it until the FSF paperwork is in
    Lars> place, I think.

OK. I heard from the clerk Friday afternoon that the paperwork is being
mailed to me to sign.

Don't know what happened last time (2004!) when I thought I had this
taken care of. Sorry for the problem. 

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>> could/should (gnus-load) update the info path to point to the newer gnus
>> manual in the git build? It would be nice for it to be handled there for
>> debugging phases like this since one often switches back and forth.

> Is there an info load path?

Yup.  Has been for at least 13 years or so.

Here are my ~/.emacs stuff for using git gnus:

(defvar git-workspace (expand-file-name "~/git"))

;; Git version of Gnus:
(let ((git-gnus-directory
       (if running-xemacs
	   (concat git-workspace "/gnus.xemacs")
	 (concat git-workspace "/gnus"))))
  (push (concat git-gnus-directory "/lisp") load-path)
  (let ((git-gnus-info-dir (concat git-gnus-directory "/texi")))
    (if (boundp 'Info-directory-list)
	(push git-gnus-info-dir Info-directory-list)
      (setq Info-directory-list (append
				 (list git-gnus-info-dir)
				 Info-default-directory-list)))))

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:37:49 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Lars: can you please look at gnus-sync.el and tell me if the way I set
>> and get the marks is wrong?  I don't know the backends well, so I don't
>> want to break something unintentionally.  It seems a bit hackish to be
>> modifying the marks directly instead of through a function.

LMI> I think it's reasonable to just set them that way...

OK.  How do I refresh the group buffer lines of the groups whose marks
I've updated?

Ted

Re: nnmairix not working again

[David Engster]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:
> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>> For a little while last week, nnmairix worked for me, but it hasn't
>> worked for a few days.  The search is done correctly, and when I enter
>> the group I see what looks like the right Summary buffer.  But when I
>> try to select an article, I get a message like:
>
> I don't have the mairix stuff installed.  Could somebody have a look at
> this? 

I just committed a fix.

-David

Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> Did you try `B c'ing a read article from the current group to itself?

Right, now I can see where `B c' in conjunction with `/ N' goes wrong.
Probably fixed, and pushed.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> OK.  How do I refresh the group buffer lines of the groups whose marks
> I've updated?

I was just looking at the code from gnus-move-articles, and it ends with
this: 

    ;; Re-activate all groups that have been moved to.
    (with-current-buffer gnus-group-buffer
      (let ((gnus-group-marked to-groups))
	(gnus-group-get-new-news-this-group nil t)))

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>     (if (boundp 'Info-directory-list)

Ah.  Capital I.

Yes, it would make sense for the thing that load gnus-load to alter it,
too.  What's the easiest way to determine what the path should be?

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Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>> Did you try `B c'ing a read article from the current group to itself?
>
> Right, now I can see where `B c' in conjunction with `/ N' goes wrong.
> Probably fixed, and pushed.

`B c' now works (thanks!), but Gcc doesn't.

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:

> I do see it.  Not every time, just when it takes a bit of time to fetch
> the next group.
>
> Usually the Groups buffer shows up.

This has now probably been fixed.

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Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:

> `B c' now works (thanks!), but Gcc doesn't.

I've now reworked how this works based on a new method, so perhaps it
works now...

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Re: nnmairix not working again

[Dan Christensen]

David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> writes:

> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes:
>> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>>
>>> For a little while last week, nnmairix worked for me, but it hasn't
>>> worked for a few days.  The search is done correctly, and when I enter
>>> the group I see what looks like the right Summary buffer.  But when I
>>> try to select an article, I get a message like:
>>
>> I don't have the mairix stuff installed.  Could somebody have a look at
>> this? 
>
> I just committed a fix.

Thanks, it works again for me.

Dan

Re: gnus-summary-insert-new-articles in an nnimap group doesn't work

[Dan Christensen]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> writes:
>
>> `B c' now works (thanks!), but Gcc doesn't.
>
> I've now reworked how this works based on a new method, so perhaps it
> works now...

Yes, Gcc'd articles now appear when I do `/ N' in an already open
Summary buffer.

Thanks!

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Nils Ackermann]

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:
>
>>> Digging a bit deeper here, it seemed like it was fetching the expiry
>>> target of the wrong group.  This may now be fixed.
>>
>> Nope, sorry.
>
> Could you edebug through `nndraft-request-expire-articles' and see what
> happens? 

First a typo:


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diff --git a/lisp/nndraft.el b/lisp/nndraft.el
index 5dc51f3..97ad2b9 100644
--- a/lisp/nndraft.el
+++ b/lisp/nndraft.el
@@ -224,7 +224,7 @@ are generated if and only if they are also in `message-draft-headers'.")
   (let* ((nnmh-allow-delete-final t)
         (nnmail-expiry-target
          (or (gnus-group-find-parameter
-              (gnus-group-prefixed-name "nndraft" (list 'nndraft server))
+              (gnus-group-prefixed-name "drafts" (list 'nndraft server))
               'expiry-target t)
              nnmail-expiry-target))
         (res (nnoo-parent-function 'nndraft

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This fixes my setup, hooray!  The override of nnmail-expiry-target
finally works in the draft group.

I wonder though if it wouldn't be better to change this to 


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diff --git a/lisp/nndraft.el b/lisp/nndraft.el
index 5dc51f3..5ad4ed0 100644
--- a/lisp/nndraft.el
+++ b/lisp/nndraft.el
@@ -222,11 +222,7 @@ are generated if and only if they are also in `message-draft-hea
 (deffoo nndraft-request-expire-articles (articles group &optional server force)
   (nndraft-possibly-change-group group)
   (let* ((nnmh-allow-delete-final t)
-        (nnmail-expiry-target
-         (or (gnus-group-find-parameter
-              (gnus-group-prefixed-name "nndraft" (list 'nndraft server))
-              'expiry-target t)
-             nnmail-expiry-target))
+        (nnmail-expiry-target 'delete)
         (res (nnoo-parent-function 'nndraft
                                    'nnmh-request-expire-articles
                                    (list articles group server force)))

[-- Attachment #5: Type: text/plain, Size: 506 bytes --]


If one expires from the drafts group to some other real email folder the
aforementioned dreaded

,----
| --text follows this line--
`----

appears in *saved* articles.  Wouldn't it be best to ensure that under
no circumstances articles are expired to a mail folder from the drafts
group?  Using expiry from the drafts group to archive sent emails makes
no sense anyway since expiry only happens if the composed email is saved
at least once during composition.

Thanks for looking into this!

Cheers,
Nils

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 27 Sep 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> '(nnimap-split-fancy (quote (: spam-split)))
>> '(nnimap-split-inbox "INBOX")
>> '(nnimap-split-predicate "UNDELETED")
>> '(nnimap-split-rule (quote nnimap-split-fancy))
>>
>> Seem not to work now. Is there a change or do I have to dig more
>> locally?
>
> It's nnimap-inbox and stuff.  See the manual for details.

Eh. Something went kaputt in the latest Texi. Reading the Gnus info
pages.. i get "byte-code: No such node or anchor: Using IMAP" when
clicking on the IMAP chapter in Select Methods.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

trying to open my email after a git pull a few minutes ago

Warning: Opening nnimap server on riley...failed: ; Denied server
nnimap+riley; Opening nnimap server on shamrockpub...failed: ; Denied
server nnimap+shamrockpub; Opening nnimap server on friends...failed: ;
Denied server nnimap+friends; Opening nnimap server on riley...failed: ;
Unable to open server nnimap+riley due to: Buffer *nnimap offlineimap
nil  *nntpd**<3> has no process; Opening nnimap server on
shamrockpub...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+shamrockpub due to:
Buffer *nnimap offlineimap nil  *nntpd**<2> has no process; Opening
nnimap server on friends...failed: ; Unable to open server
nnimap+friends due to: Buffer *nnimap offlineimap nil  *nntpd** has no
process
Reverting buffer `mail.log'.


I changed nothing on my side.

if this isnt enough let know (you know my set up - I use the select
method name as the server name).


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> I'm thinking about trolling the gnus-bug list a bit and, well, fix
> stuff.  Is there anything in particular that I should handle first?  Any
> pet peeves?
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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>
>
>

nnimap splitting (was: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 22:46:28 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> nnimap splitting?  Or is that moved somewhere else?

LMI> You need to set nnimap-inbox and stuff to get splitting again...  see
LMI> the manual for details.  (Yes!  I actually documented this yesterday.
LMI> :-))

I don't see anything about `nnimap-inbox' in the manual, only a mention
in the news file.  IMO `nnimap-inbox' should default to "INBOX" instead
of nil since that's always available on an IMAP server and splitting is
enabled only if `nnimap-split-methods' is set.  So it's harmless to set
it to "INBOX".

I noticed that the `nnimap-split-rule' is no longer consulted.  The
related functions from the old nnimap were `nnimap-assoc-match' and
`nnimap-split-find-rule' plus a few others.  Is there a reason you
don't want those checked, or have they simply not been a priority?  I
can bring `nnimap-split-rule' back but wanted to find out first.

For reference, here's the defcustom declaration:

  :type '(choice :tag "Rule type"
		 (repeat :menu-tag "Single-server"
			 :tag "Single-server list"
			 (list (string :tag "Mailbox")
			       (choice :tag "Predicate"
				       (regexp :tag "A regexp")
				       (nnimap-strict-function :tag "A function"))))
		 (choice :menu-tag "A function"
			 :tag "A function"
			 (function-item nnimap-split-fancy)
			 (function-item nnmail-split-fancy)
			 (nnimap-strict-function :tag "User-defined function"))
		 (repeat :menu-tag "Multi-server (extended)"
			 :tag "Multi-server list"
			 (list (regexp :tag "Server regexp")
			       (list (regexp :tag "Incoming Mailbox regexp")
				     (repeat :tag "Rules for matching server(s) and mailbox(es)"
					     (list (string :tag "Destination mailbox")
						   (choice :tag "Predicate"
							   (regexp :tag "A Regexp")
							   (nnimap-strict-function :tag "A Function"))))))))

Thanks
Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Nils Ackermann <nils-gmane@ackermath.info> writes:

>           (or (gnus-group-find-parameter
> -              (gnus-group-prefixed-name "nndraft" (list 'nndraft server))
> +              (gnus-group-prefixed-name "drafts" (list 'nndraft server))

Thanks' I've applied a variant of this.

> If one expires from the drafts group to some other real email folder the
> aforementioned dreaded
>
> ,----
> | --text follows this line--
> `----
>
> appears in *saved* articles.  Wouldn't it be best to ensure that under
> no circumstances articles are expired to a mail folder from the drafts
> group?  Using expiry from the drafts group to archive sent emails makes
> no sense anyway since expiry only happens if the composed email is saved
> at least once during composition.

Well, if you use

(setq mail-header-separator "")

then the mail will be valid.  (I think it should be the default,
actually, but it may be too confusing.)

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Gijs Hillenius <gijs@hillenius.net> writes:

> Eh. Something went kaputt in the latest Texi. Reading the Gnus info
> pages.. i get "byte-code: No such node or anchor: Using IMAP" when
> clicking on the IMAP chapter in Select Methods.

I guess you can't have @acronym in the @node names.  Fixed now.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> if this isnt enough let know (you know my set up - I use the select
> method name as the server name).

What's your nnimap method definitions?

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Re: nnimap splitting

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I don't see anything about `nnimap-inbox' in the manual, only a mention
> in the news file.

It's in the "Client-Side IMAP Splitting" node.

> IMO `nnimap-inbox' should default to "INBOX" instead of nil since
> that's always available on an IMAP server and splitting is enabled
> only if `nnimap-split-methods' is set.  So it's harmless to set it to
> "INBOX".

Yes, but for the development version I wanted to keep it safer than
safe.  When all problems have been ironed out, then we can flip the
default.

> I noticed that the `nnimap-split-rule' is no longer consulted.

nnimap uses the normal split methods now.

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Re: nnimap splitting

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:24:27 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> I don't see anything about `nnimap-inbox' in the manual, only a mention
>> in the news file.

LMI> It's in the "Client-Side IMAP Splitting" node.

Ah damn it.  `ack' without "-a" doesn't grep texi files, apparently.  Sorry.

>> IMO `nnimap-inbox' should default to "INBOX" instead of nil since
>> that's always available on an IMAP server and splitting is enabled
>> only if `nnimap-split-methods' is set.  So it's harmless to set it to
>> "INBOX".

LMI> Yes, but for the development version I wanted to keep it safer than
LMI> safe.  When all problems have been ironed out, then we can flip the
LMI> default.

OK, I understand.

>> I noticed that the `nnimap-split-rule' is no longer consulted.

LMI> nnimap uses the normal split methods now.

Should we declare it obsolete then, so users that have customized it are
not surprised?

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 22:46:28 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> nnimap splitting?  Or is that moved somewhere else?

LMI> You need to set nnimap-inbox and stuff to get splitting again...  see
LMI> the manual for details.  (Yes!  I actually documented this yesterday.
LMI> :-))

I have a foreign server set up like this:

(setq nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy '(|
...
                      ;; default mailbox
                      "INBOX.mail"))

When I `e'dited the foreign server I did:

(nnimap "lifelogs.com"
        (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com")
        (nnimap-server-port 993)
        (nnimap-logout-timeout 1)
        (nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
        (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
        (nnimap-stream ssl))

And the IMAP splitting doesn't seem to happen.  The example in the
manual uses , to interpolate the contents of the split methods; does
this mean that for foreign servers I need to include the whole rule set
when I `e'dit the definition?  That didn't work for me.  It's also
possible that this doesn't work because it's a fancy rule and/or it's a
foreign server.  So I would like to know how I'm *supposed* to do it and
*if* it is supposed to work before I start debugging :)

Thanks
Ted

Re: nnimap splitting

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

>>> I noticed that the `nnimap-split-rule' is no longer consulted.
>
> LMI> nnimap uses the normal split methods now.
>
> Should we declare it obsolete then, so users that have customized it are
> not surprised?

Can one obsolete a variable that no longer exists?  I'm not sure how the
obsoletion thing works...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> (nnimap "lifelogs.com"
>         (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com")
>         (nnimap-server-port 993)
>         (nnimap-logout-timeout 1)
>         (nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
>         (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
>         (nnimap-stream ssl))

I have:

	(nnimap "hermes.netfonds.no"
	 	(nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
		(nnimap-split-methods ,nnmail-split-methods)
		(nnir-search-engine imap))

So it expects the value there, not a variable that refers to a value.
But perhaps it should take the symbol-value if the value is a variable?  

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Re: nnimap splitting

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:06:56 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>>>> I noticed that the `nnimap-split-rule' is no longer consulted.
>> 
LMI> nnimap uses the normal split methods now.
>> 
>> Should we declare it obsolete then, so users that have customized it are
>> not surprised?

LMI> Can one obsolete a variable that no longer exists?  I'm not sure how the
LMI> obsoletion thing works...

You don't have to provide the new name for the variable and the old name
is keyed by symbol:

(make-obsolete-variable 'nnimap-split-rule "see `nnimap-split-methods'" "Gnus x.y.z")

It still shows up with `C-h v' but at least Emacs knows it's obsolete
and will indicate it when customizing and when byte-compiling.

I *think* that's the right way to do it.  It seems to intern that
symbol, though, which could be a problem.

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:09:25 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> (nnimap "lifelogs.com"
>> (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com")
>> (nnimap-server-port 993)
>> (nnimap-logout-timeout 1)
>> (nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
>> (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
>> (nnimap-stream ssl))

LMI> I have:

LMI> 	(nnimap "hermes.netfonds.no"
LMI> 	 	(nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
LMI> 		(nnimap-split-methods ,nnmail-split-methods)
LMI> 		(nnir-search-engine imap))

LMI> So it expects the value there, not a variable that refers to a
LMI> value.

That didn't work when I included the entire contents of
nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy.

When you `e'dit a foreign server definition, comma interpolation gets
escaped so I actually had

 (nnimap-split-methods \,nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)

in the definition when I tried to interpolate.

LMI> But perhaps it should take the symbol-value if the value is a
LMI> variable?

Yes, definitely.  It would make the setup much simpler.

Ted

Re: nnimap splitting

[Andreas Schwab]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I *think* that's the right way to do it.  It seems to intern that
> symbol, though, which could be a problem.

make-obsolete-variable doesn't, the lisp reader does.

Andreas.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andreas Schwab]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> When you `e'dit a foreign server definition, comma interpolation gets
> escaped so I actually had
>
>  (nnimap-split-methods \,nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
>
> in the definition when I tried to interpolate.

The comma is only special inside a backquote form.

Andreas.

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Re: nnimap splitting

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> (make-obsolete-variable 'nnimap-split-rule "see `nnimap-split-methods'" "Gnus x.y.z")

Ok; added.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> When you `e'dit a foreign server definition, comma interpolation gets
> escaped so I actually had
>
>  (nnimap-split-methods \,nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)

No, that won't work...

> in the definition when I tried to interpolate.
>
> LMI> But perhaps it should take the symbol-value if the value is a
> LMI> variable?
>
> Yes, definitely.  It would make the setup much simpler.

But that clashes with it being able to be a symbol that refers to a
function.

I've now added the special `default' value for the
`nnimap-split-methods' value, which means "just use
`nnmail-split-methods'".  If you want to use something different, then
you need to write a function that returns the split methods, and not a
variable... 

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:34:58 +0200 Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote: 

AS> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> When you `e'dit a foreign server definition, comma interpolation gets
>> escaped so I actually had
>> 
>> (nnimap-split-methods \,nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
>> 
>> in the definition when I tried to interpolate.

AS> The comma is only special inside a backquote form.

I was copying the example from the manual and showing how the end user
would be surprised :)

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:53:42 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> But that clashes with it being able to be a symbol that refers to a
LMI> function.

LMI> I've now added the special `default' value for the
LMI> `nnimap-split-methods' value, which means "just use
LMI> `nnmail-split-methods'".  If you want to use something different, then
LMI> you need to write a function that returns the split methods, and not a
LMI> variable... 

OK, I've looked at the manual and there's no explanation that this:

        (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)

in the server definition means that the function
`nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy' will be called.  The
`nnmail-split-methods' docstring mentions it, but the manual doesn't
AFAICT.  Some examples kind of imply it can be a function, but in most
places the value is treated as a variable.  It's entirely possible I'm
missing something but it's pretty confusing IMO.

Plus there's the fancy vs. regular splitting distinction; how does Gnus
know what kind of rule it's looking at?  Does it just look at the first
element?

I can't try nnimap splitting with a function because as of this morning
I get the error below when I `g'et new mail.  I removed the
nnimap-split-methods and nnimap-inbox from the server definition and
still get this error so it must be something else.  It worked three days
ago (last time I restarted Gnus).  Let me know if it's not obvious and
I'll start digging.

Thanks
Ted

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil)
  nnimap-update-info(("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.train" 3 (1 . 113104) ((active 113105 . 113104)) (nnimap "lifelogs.com" (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-logout-timeout 1) (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") (nnimap-stream ssl)) ((imap-status . "113602 1 0") (uidvalidity . "1099096333"))) (nil nil nil nil nil 113004 nil))
  nnimap-update-infos((("INBOX.gl" (1369 1370 1371 1372 1373 1374 1375 1376 1377 1378 1379 1380 1381 1382 1383 1384 1385 1386 1387 1388 1389 1390 1391 1392 1393 1394 1395 1396 1397 1398 1399 1400 1401 1402 1403 1404 1405 1406 1407 1408 1409 1410 1411 1412 1413 1414 1415 1416 1417 1418 ...) nil 1469 1369 nil 1369 nil) ("INBOX.work" (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24) (($Forwarded 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8) (gnus-forward 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13) (NonJunk 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 16 24) (%Seen 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24)) 24 1 nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.tramp" (3434 3435 3436 3437 3438 3439 3440 3441 3442 3443 3444 3445 3446 3447 3448 3449 3450 3451 3452 3453 3454 3455 3456 3457 3458 3459 3460 3461 3462 3463 3464 3465 3466 3467 3468 3469 3470 3471 3472 3473 3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 3483 ...) ((%Seen 3434 3435 3436 3437 3438 3439 3440 3441 3442 3443 3444 3445 3446 3447 3448 3449 3450 3451 3452 3453 3454 3455 3456 3457 3458 3459 3460 3461 3462 3463 3464 3465 3466 3467 3468 3469 3470 3471 3472 3473 3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 ...)) 3534 3434 nil 3434 nil) ("INBOX.trainham" nil nil nil nil nil 7116 nil) ("INBOX.train" nil nil nil nil nil 113004 nil) ("INBOX.torrent" (8 9) ((%Seen 8 9)) 9 8 nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.todo" (772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 ...) ((%Seen 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 ...) (%Flagged 795 798 802 803 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 838 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872)) 872 772 nil 772 nil) ("INBOX.test" (286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306) ((%Seen 286 287 288 289 290)) 306 286 nil 206 nil) ("INBOX.sys" (2 3 4 5 6) ((%Seen 2 3 4 5 6)) 6 2 nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.sf" (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 36) (($NotJunk 20) (%Answered 3 5 6 15 17 24 25 26 29 32) (%Seen 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 36)) 36 1 nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.sa" (7381 7382 7383 7384 7385 7386 7387 7388 7389 7390 7391 7392 7393 7394 7395 7396 7397 7398 7399 7400 7401 7402 7403 7404 7405 7406 7407 7408 7409 7410 7411 7412 7413 7414 7415 7416 7417 7418 7419 7420 7421 7422 7423 7424 7425 7426 7427 7428 7429 7430 ...) ((%Answered 7478) (%Seen 7381 7382 7383 7384 7385 7386 7387 7388 7389 7390 7391 7392 7393 7394 7395 7396 7397 7398 7399 7400 7401 7402 7403 7404 7405 7406 7407 7408 7409 7410 7411 7412 7413 7414 7415 7416 7417 7418 7419 7420 7421 7422 7423 7424 7425 7426 7427 7428 7429 ...)) 7481 7381 nil 7381 nil) ("INBOX.root" nil nil nil nil nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.receipts" (3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 3483 3484 3485 3486 3487 3488 3489 3490 3491 3492 3493 3494 3495 3496 3497 3498 3499 3500 3501 3502 3503 3504 3505 3506 3507 3510 3511 3512 3513 3514 3515 3516 3517 3518 3519 3520 3521 3522 3523 3524 3525 ...) ((%Flagged 3552) (%Seen 3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 3483 3484 3485 3486 3487 3488 3489 3490 3491 3492 3493 3494 3495 3496 3497 3498 3499 3500 3501 3502 3503 3504 3505 3506 3507 3510 3511 3512 3513 3514 3515 3516 3517 3518 3519 3520 3521 3522 3523 3524 ...)) 3574 3474 nil 3474 nil) ("INBOX.recdescent" (285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 ...) 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(nnimap "lifelogs.com" (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-logout-timeout 1) (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") (nnimap-stream ssl)) ((imap-status . "1405 1 1404") (uidvalidity . "1251421188")))) ((513 514 96368 "INBOX.mail")))
  gnus-get-unread-articles(nil)
  gnus-group-get-new-news(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus-group-get-new-news nil nil)

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I was copying the example from the manual and showing how the end user
> would be surprised :)

Yeah, I've fixed the example in the manual now...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> if this isnt enough let know (you know my set up - I use the select
>> method name as the server name).
>
> What's your nnimap method definitions?

,----
|   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|                `(nnimap "riley"
|                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
|                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
|                         (nnimap-stream network)
|                         ))
| 
|   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|                `(nnimap "shamrockpub"
|                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
|                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
|                         (nnimap-stream network)
|                         ))
| 
|   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|                `(nnimap "friends"
|                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
|                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
|                         (nnimap-stream network)
|                         ))
| 
`----

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> OK, I've looked at the manual and there's no explanation that this:
>
>         (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
>
> in the server definition means that the function
> `nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy' will be called.  The
> `nnmail-split-methods' docstring mentions it, but the manual doesn't
> AFAICT.  Some examples kind of imply it can be a function, but in most
> places the value is treated as a variable.  It's entirely possible I'm
> missing something but it's pretty confusing IMO.

It's this:

---------
If you like to tinker with this yourself, you can set this variable to a
function of your choice.  This function will be called without any
arguments in a buffer narrowed to the headers of an incoming mail
message.  The function should return a list of group names that it
thinks should carry this mail message.
---------

As you point out, the nnimap-split-methods documentation doesn't really
explain any of this, but that's by design.  It's the same syntax as the
nnmail variable, so it'd be superfluous, especially with such a
grotesquely complex variable as that...

> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil)

I think this should probably now be OK with Dave Goldberg's fix.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> |   (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
> |                `(nnimap "riley"
> |                         (nnimap-address "offlineimap")
> |                         (nnir-search-engine imap)
> |                         (nnimap-stream network)

Right.  You were probably hit by the network->starttls promotion.  That
code is now gone, so are things working for you now?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:52:39 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> As you point out, the nnimap-split-methods documentation doesn't really
LMI> explain any of this, but that's by design.  It's the same syntax as the
LMI> nnmail variable, so it'd be superfluous, especially with such a
LMI> grotesquely complex variable as that...

OK.  So for the entertainment of future generations, here's my working
setup.  First of all, the server definition:

(nnimap "lifelogs.com"
        (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com")
        (nnimap-server-port 993)
        (nnimap-logout-timeout 1)
        (nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
        (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
        (nnimap-stream ssl))

And then the fancy split function:

(defun nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy ()
  (let ((nnmail-split-fancy nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
        (spam-split-group "INBOX.spam"))
    (nnmail-split-fancy)))

(setq nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy '(|
                      (: gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent)
                      (: spam-split 'spam-use-regex-headers)
;;; ... boring rules skipped ...
                      (: spam-split)
                      ;; default mailbox
                      "INBOX.mail"))

This seems to work.  Maybe it would be a good example for the manual?

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> OK.  So for the entertainment of future generations, here's my working
> setup.  First of all, the server definition:
>
> (nnimap "lifelogs.com"
>         (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com")
>         (nnimap-server-port 993)

This is the default.

>         (nnimap-logout-timeout 1)

Doesn't exist.

>         (nnimap-stream ssl))

And this is the default.

> (setq nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy '(|
>                       (: gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent)
>                       (: spam-split 'spam-use-regex-headers)
> ;;; ... boring rules skipped ...
>                       (: spam-split)
>                       ;; default mailbox
>                       "INBOX.mail"))
>
> This seems to work.  Maybe it would be a good example for the manual?

Aren't there a lot of nnmail-split-method examples in there already?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:38:48 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

>> (setq nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy '(|
>> (: gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent)
>> (: spam-split 'spam-use-regex-headers)
>> ;;; ... boring rules skipped ...
>> (: spam-split)
>> ;; default mailbox
>> "INBOX.mail"))
>> 
>> This seems to work.  Maybe it would be a good example for the manual?

LMI> Aren't there a lot of nnmail-split-method examples in there already?

I searched for "fancy" and found a lot of uses of the fancy splitting,
plus did you know that "infancy" is the only non-splitting related work
in the manual that contains "fancy"?

I don't think we have an example with the necessary wrappers to make
fancy splitting work (meaning, a function that let-binds the
nnmail-split-fancy variable and then runs the nnmail-split-fancy
function).  IMHO that function is very tricky for ELisp beginners
because almost all other programming languages don't allow a function
and a variable bound to the same symbol.

For nnimap that custom function is a likely need because
nnmail-split-methods are not going to be the same as
nnimap-split-methods.

Thanks
Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> I searched for "fancy" and found a lot of uses of the fancy splitting,
> plus did you know that "infancy" is the only non-splitting related work
> in the manual that contains "fancy"?

:-)

> I don't think we have an example with the necessary wrappers to make
> fancy splitting work (meaning, a function that let-binds the
> nnmail-split-fancy variable and then runs the nnmail-split-fancy
> function).  IMHO that function is very tricky for ELisp beginners
> because almost all other programming languages don't allow a function
> and a variable bound to the same symbol.

Yeah.  Well, just whip up an example and check it into the manual.

> For nnimap that custom function is a likely need because
> nnmail-split-methods are not going to be the same as
> nnimap-split-methods.

They aren't?  Mine are.  :-)

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Dan Christensen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> OK.  So for the entertainment of future generations, here's my working
> setup.  First of all, the server definition:

Is there no way Gnus could be changed to make the wrapper function
unnecessary?  This seems way too complicated.

Dan

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:09:22 -0400 Dan Christensen <jdc@uwo.ca> wrote: 

DC> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> OK.  So for the entertainment of future generations, here's my working
>> setup.  First of all, the server definition:

DC> Is there no way Gnus could be changed to make the wrapper function
DC> unnecessary?  This seems way too complicated.

That would be nice.  Maybe we can have a server variable
nnimap-split-methods-fancy which can name a variable or hold the fancy
split rules directly.  When it's set, nnimap-split-methods is
disregarded.

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> That would be nice.  Maybe we can have a server variable
> nnimap-split-methods-fancy which can name a variable or hold the fancy
> split rules directly.  When it's set, nnimap-split-methods is
> disregarded.

Hm.  Yes, the problem is that nnmail-split-methods should just have
allowed fancy splits directly, without going via a second function...

But since it is that way, I'll just add a nnimap-split-methods-fancy
variable. 

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:42:29 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Hm.  Yes, the problem is that nnmail-split-methods should just have
LMI> allowed fancy splits directly, without going via a second function...

LMI> But since it is that way, I'll just add a nnimap-split-methods-fancy
LMI> variable. 

That will certainly work for now.  But since we seem to be OK with
rethinking how splitting works, can we consider merging normal and fancy
splitting?  It's pretty easy to tell the two formats apart and it would
simplify the splitting logic and the manual.

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> That will certainly work for now.  But since we seem to be OK with
> rethinking how splitting works, can we consider merging normal and fancy
> splitting?  It's pretty easy to tell the two formats apart and it would
> simplify the splitting logic and the manual.

I think I dimly remember there being some reason why this is split into
two methods no, but I can't really remember why.

It does seem that the syntaxes (syntaxii?  syntices?) are sufficiently
different to tell them apart...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:10:57 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> That will certainly work for now.  But since we seem to be OK with
>> rethinking how splitting works, can we consider merging normal and fancy
>> splitting?  It's pretty easy to tell the two formats apart and it would
>> simplify the splitting logic and the manual.

LMI> I think I dimly remember there being some reason why this is split into
LMI> two methods no, but I can't really remember why.

No idea here.  Maybe an old-timer can remember :)

LMI> It does seem that the syntaxes (syntaxii?  syntices?) are sufficiently
LMI> different to tell them apart...

Yeah, basically if the ruleset is a list and the first list element is a
list of two strings, it's a standard split ruleset (fancy rules always
have three string elements or other contents).  Otherwise it's a fancy
ruleset.  In untested form, given `ruleset':

(and (listp ruleset)
     (let ((top-element (car-safe ruleset)))
        (and (= 2 (length top-element))
             (stringp (nth 0 top-element))
             (stringp (nth 1 top-element)))))

Ted

nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles (was: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?)

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 10:13:11 -0500 Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> wrote: 

TZ> I can't try nnimap splitting with a function because as of this morning
TZ> I get the error below when I `g'et new mail.  I removed the
TZ> nnimap-split-methods and nnimap-inbox from the server definition and
TZ> still get this error so it must be something else.  It worked three days
TZ> ago (last time I restarted Gnus).  Let me know if it's not obvious and
TZ> I'll start digging.

(changing the subject for easier tracking)

OK, this is still happening with the latest repo pull.  I can replicate
it like this:

- mark a bunch of foreign nnimap groups (10 or more) and `M-g' or `g' to scan all

- this doesn't happen with nnmaildir or nntp groups

- after 3-5 usually (I can't tell if it's a fixed number) I get the error

- if I repeat the M-g, the list of marked groups shrinks by 3-5 every time

So whatever breaks happens after a few groups are scanned.  The first
one ALWAYS works.  On startup it sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't.

Bug 2:
I also sometimes see IMAP groups with few unread articles (just the
recent ones since the nnimap switch).  `M-g' inside the group brings
back everything.  I don't know what triggers that but I think at least
one other person has reported it.  This is on Courier IMAP.  I won't
start a new thread since below you can see all my marks :)

Thanks
Ted

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil)
  nnimap-update-info(("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.train" 3 (1 . 113104) ((active 113105 . 113104)) (nnimap "lifelogs.com" (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-logout-timeout 1) (nnimap-inbox "INBOX") (nnimap-stream ssl)) ((imap-status . "113602 1 0") (uidvalidity . "1099096333"))) (nil nil nil nil nil 113004 nil))
  nnimap-update-infos((("INBOX.gl" (1369 1370 1371 1372 1373 1374 1375 1376 1377 1378 1379 1380 1381 1382 1383 1384 1385 1386 1387 1388 1389 1390 1391 1392 1393 1394 1395 1396 1397 1398 1399 1400 1401 1402 1403 1404 1405 1406 1407 1408 1409 1410 1411 1412 1413 1414 1415 1416 1417 1418 ...) nil 1469 1369 nil 1369 nil) ("INBOX.work" (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24) (($Forwarded 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8) (gnus-forward 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13) (NonJunk 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 16 24) (%Seen 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24)) 24 1 nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.tramp" (3434 3435 3436 3437 3438 3439 3440 3441 3442 3443 3444 3445 3446 3447 3448 3449 3450 3451 3452 3453 3454 3455 3456 3457 3458 3459 3460 3461 3462 3463 3464 3465 3466 3467 3468 3469 3470 3471 3472 3473 3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 3483 ...) ((%Seen 3434 3435 3436 3437 3438 3439 3440 3441 3442 3443 3444 3445 3446 3447 3448 3449 3450 3451 3452 3453 3454 3455 3456 3457 3458 3459 3460 3461 3462 3463 3464 3465 3466 3467 3468 3469 3470 3471 3472 3473 3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 ...)) 3534 3434 nil 3434 nil) ("INBOX.trainham" nil nil nil nil nil 7116 nil) ("INBOX.train" nil nil nil nil nil 113004 nil) ("INBOX.torrent" (8 9) ((%Seen 8 9)) 9 8 nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.todo" (772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 ...) ((%Seen 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 ...) 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((%Answered 7478) (%Seen 7381 7382 7383 7384 7385 7386 7387 7388 7389 7390 7391 7392 7393 7394 7395 7396 7397 7398 7399 7400 7401 7402 7403 7404 7405 7406 7407 7408 7409 7410 7411 7412 7413 7414 7415 7416 7417 7418 7419 7420 7421 7422 7423 7424 7425 7426 7427 7428 7429 ...)) 7481 7381 nil 7381 nil) ("INBOX.root" nil nil nil nil nil 1 nil) ("INBOX.receipts" (3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 3483 3484 3485 3486 3487 3488 3489 3490 3491 3492 3493 3494 3495 3496 3497 3498 3499 3500 3501 3502 3503 3504 3505 3506 3507 3510 3511 3512 3513 3514 3515 3516 3517 3518 3519 3520 3521 3522 3523 3524 3525 ...) ((%Flagged 3552) (%Seen 3474 3475 3476 3477 3478 3479 3480 3481 3482 3483 3484 3485 3486 3487 3488 3489 3490 3491 3492 3493 3494 3495 3496 3497 3498 3499 3500 3501 3502 3503 3504 3505 3506 3507 3510 3511 3512 3513 3514 3515 3516 3517 3518 3519 3520 3521 3522 3523 3524 ...)) 3574 3474 nil 3474 nil) ("INBOX.recdescent" (285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 ...) 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((%Answered 15160 15162) (%Seen 15118 15119 15120 15121 15122 15123 15124 15125 15126 15127 15128 15129 15130 15131 15132 15133 15134 15135 15136 15137 15138 15139 15140 15141 15142 15143 15144 15145 15146 15147 15148 15149 15150 15151 15152 15153 15154 15155 15156 15157 15158 15159 15160 15161 15162 15163 15164 15165 15166 ...)) 15218 15118 nil 15118 nil) ("INBOX.perl" (6775 6776 6777 6778 6779 6780 6781 6782 6783 6784 6785 6786 6787 6788 6789 6790 6791 6792 6793 6794 6795 6796 6797 6798 6799 6800 6801 6802 6803 6804 6805 6806 6807 6808 6809 6810 6811 6812 6813 6814 6815 6816 6817 6818 6819 6820 6821 6822 6823 6824 ...) 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  gnus-get-unread-articles(nil)
  gnus-group-get-new-news(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus-group-get-new-news nil nil)

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>>  '(nnimap-split-fancy (quote (: spam-split)))
>>  '(nnimap-split-inbox "INBOX")
>>  '(nnimap-split-predicate "UNDELETED")
>>  '(nnimap-split-rule (quote nnimap-split-fancy))
>>
>> Seem not to work now. Is there a change or do I have to dig more
>> locally?
>
> It's nnimap-inbox and stuff.  See the manual for details.

Just getting around to retrying this now.

I tried to move a bunch of Spam from my Spam folder to my inbox to be
reprocessed using B m and get this:

,----
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp t)
|   encode-coding-string(t utf-7-imap)
|   utf7-encode(t t)
|   nnimap-request-move-article(1016 "Gnus-Spam" "riley" (gnus-request-accept-article "nnimap+riley:INBOX" (quote nil) nil t) nil t)
|   gnus-request-move-article(1016 "nnimap+riley:Gnus-Spam" "riley" (gnus-request-accept-article "nnimap+riley:INBOX" (quote nil) nil t) nil t)
|   gnus-summary-move-article(nil)
|   call-interactively(gnus-summary-move-article nil nil)
`----

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Just getting around to retrying this now.
>
> I tried to move a bunch of Spam from my Spam folder to my inbox to be
> reprocessed using B m and get this:
>
> ,----
> | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp t)
> |   encode-coding-string(t utf-7-imap)
> |   utf7-encode(t t)
> |   nnimap-request-move-article(1016 "Gnus-Spam" "riley" (gnus-request-accept-article "nnimap+riley:INBOX" (quote nil) nil t) nil t)

I'm unable to reproduce this, and I'm not even sure how it can happen.
The last t there is from `gnus-summary-move-article', and it must only
be nil or a group name, so this seems rather puzzling.  You're not using
an old version of gnus-sum.el?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> - mark a bunch of foreign nnimap groups (10 or more) and `M-g' or `g' to scan all

I'm not quite sure why this happens, but it's easy enough to check for
UIDNEXT before using it.  Since it happens in one of your INBOX groups,
I'm guessing it may have something to do with totally empty groups on
Courier...

Pushed now.

> I also sometimes see IMAP groups with few unread articles (just the
> recent ones since the nnimap switch).  `M-g' inside the group brings
> back everything.  I don't know what triggers that but I think at least
> one other person has reported it.  This is on Courier IMAP.  I won't
> start a new thread since below you can see all my marks :)

So there are too few unread articles in the group?  Does `M-g' on the
group in the group buffer fix it?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 18:52:34 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> - mark a bunch of foreign nnimap groups (10 or more) and `M-g' or `g' to scan all

LMI> I'm not quite sure why this happens, but it's easy enough to check for
LMI> UIDNEXT before using it.  Since it happens in one of your INBOX groups,
LMI> I'm guessing it may have something to do with totally empty groups on
LMI> Courier...

LMI> Pushed now.

It's still not fixed, but that hint helped.  I have a group now which
can reliable produce the error, and it seems to happen because it's
empty:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil)
  nnimap-request-group("INBOX.eterm" "lifelogs.com" t nil)
  gnus-request-group("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.eterm" t)
  gnus-select-newsgroup("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.eterm" nil nil)
  gnus-summary-read-group-1("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.eterm" nil t nil nil nil)
  gnus-summary-read-group("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.eterm" nil t nil nil nil nil)
  gnus-group-read-group(nil t)
  gnus-group-select-group(nil)
  gnus-topic-select-group(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus-topic-select-group nil nil)

This patch fixes it:

diff --git a/lisp/nnimap.el b/lisp/nnimap.el
index ff1d2b8..8e37e4b 100644
--- a/lisp/nnimap.el
+++ b/lisp/nnimap.el
@@ -623,10 +623,11 @@ textual parts.")
                (nnimap-update-infos marks (list info)))
              (goto-char (point-max))
              (let ((uidnext (nth 5 (car marks))))
-               (setq high (if uidnext
-                              (1- uidnext)
-                            (nth 3 (car marks)))
-                     low (or (nth 4 (car marks)) uidnext)))))
+               (setq high (or (if uidnext
+                                   (1- uidnext)
+                                 (nth 3 (car marks)))
+                               0)
+                     low (or (nth 4 (car marks)) uidnext 0)))))
          (erase-buffer)
          (insert
           (format

but then the empty group shows one unread article, so I'm sure you can
figure out a better way :)

>> I also sometimes see IMAP groups with few unread articles (just the
>> recent ones since the nnimap switch).  `M-g' inside the group brings
>> back everything.  I don't know what triggers that but I think at least
>> one other person has reported it.  This is on Courier IMAP.  I won't
>> start a new thread since below you can see all my marks :)

LMI> So there are too few unread articles in the group?  Does `M-g' on the
LMI> group in the group buffer fix it?

Yes, always.  Also all my foreign IMAP groups (I don't have native ones)
are showing 0/0 counts when I start up, until I do `M-g' on them.

Ted

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> This patch fixes it:

Ok; applied.

> but then the empty group shows one unread article, so I'm sure you can
> figure out a better way :)

Fixed.

> LMI> So there are too few unread articles in the group?  Does `M-g' on the
> LMI> group in the group buffer fix it?
>
> Yes, always.  Also all my foreign IMAP groups (I don't have native ones)
> are showing 0/0 counts when I start up, until I do `M-g' on them.

That's not how it's supposed to work.  :-)

Are these groups on a level that's low enough that they get activated?
I guess so, since otherwise they'd have "*" in front of them, and not
0.

Try doing an `M-x debug-on-entry' on
nnimap-finish-retrieve-group-infos.  It should contain the infos on all
the nnimap groups...

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> (and (listp ruleset)
>      (let ((top-element (car-safe ruleset)))
>         (and (= 2 (length top-element))
>              (stringp (nth 0 top-element))
>              (stringp (nth 1 top-element)))))

I've now added this.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 21:12:47 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> (and (listp ruleset)
>> (let ((top-element (car-safe ruleset)))
>> (and (= 2 (length top-element))
>> (stringp (nth 0 top-element))
>> (stringp (nth 1 top-element)))))

LMI> I've now added this.

Thanks.  So now I can just set nnimap-split-methods to my split-fancy
function that returns a string?  Or does it take the whole fancy spec?

Ted

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:57:47 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> This patch fixes it:

LMI> Ok; applied.

>> but then the empty group shows one unread article, so I'm sure you can
>> figure out a better way :)

LMI> Fixed.

Thanks, I can confirm it works perfectly now.

Ted

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:57:47 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> So there are too few unread articles in the group?  Does `M-g' on the
LMI> group in the group buffer fix it?
>> 
>> Yes, always.  Also all my foreign IMAP groups (I don't have native ones)
>> are showing 0/0 counts when I start up, until I do `M-g' on them.

LMI> That's not how it's supposed to work.  :-)

LMI> Are these groups on a level that's low enough that they get activated?
LMI> I guess so, since otherwise they'd have "*" in front of them, and not
LMI> 0.

Yes.

LMI> Try doing an `M-x debug-on-entry' on
LMI> nnimap-finish-retrieve-group-infos.  It should contain the infos on all
LMI> the nnimap groups...

OK, here you go:

Debugger entered--entering a function:
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"1251421188")))) ((614 615 1 "INBOX.mail") (612 613 1646 "INBOX.westtech") (610 611 4066 "INBOX.personal") (608 609 1 "INBOX.soccer") (606 607 310978 "INBOX.spam") (604 605 1222 "INBOX.emacs") (602 603 6870 "INBOX.lifelogs") (600 601 3470 "INBOX.cpan") (598 599 2602 "INBOX.firebug") (596 597 2136 "INBOX.gci") (594 595 30283 "INBOX.maemo") (592 593 1 "INBOX") (590 591 1 "INBOX.akamai") (588 589 166 "INBOX.bg") (586 587 1 "INBOX.cfengine") (584 585 1 "INBOX.jam") (582 583 1 "INBOX.cfperl") (580 581 4412 "INBOX.courier") (578 579 24679 "INBOX.ding") (576 577 7277 "INBOX.ding.archive") (574 575 1120 "INBOX.dsg") (572 573 33431 "INBOX.e") (570 571 469 "INBOX.ebay") (568 569 1 "INBOX.eterm") (566 567 1 "INBOX.forum") (564 565 3058 "INBOX.ietf") (562 563 8122 "INBOX.ion") (560 561 1 "INBOX.lug") (558 559 9227 "INBOX.networker") (556 557 9741 "INBOX.nlt") (554 555 1 "INBOX.perl") (552 553 15118 "INBOX.poop") (550 551 377 "INBOX.ps3") (548 549 285 "INBOX.recdescent") (546 547 3474 "INBOX.receipts") (544 545 1 "INBOX.root") (542 543 7381 "INBOX.sa") (540 541 1 "INBOX.sf") (538 539 1 "INBOX.sys") (536 537 206 "INBOX.test") (534 535 772 "INBOX.todo") (532 533 1 "INBOX.torrent") (530 531 112701 "INBOX.train") (528 529 1 "INBOX.trainham") (526 527 3434 "INBOX.tramp") (524 525 1 "INBOX.work") (522 523 1369 "INBOX.gl")))
  gnus-get-unread-articles(nil)
  gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil)
  byte-code...
  gnus-1(nil nil nil)
  gnus(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus nil nil)

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:57:47 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

>> Yes, always.  Also all my foreign IMAP groups (I don't have native ones)
>> are showing 0/0 counts when I start up, until I do `M-g' on them.

LMI> That's not how it's supposed to work.  :-)

LMI> Are these groups on a level that's low enough that they get activated?
LMI> I guess so, since otherwise they'd have "*" in front of them, and not
LMI> 0.

LMI> Try doing an `M-x debug-on-entry' on
LMI> nnimap-finish-retrieve-group-infos.  It should contain the infos on all
LMI> the nnimap groups...

Another data point: `l' hides groups with 0 articles but not these IMAP
groups, so it knows they have articles.  So it may be just a visual
update problem.

Ted

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> LMI> Try doing an `M-x debug-on-entry' on
> LMI> nnimap-finish-retrieve-group-infos.  It should contain the infos on all
> LMI> the nnimap groups...
>
> OK, here you go:
>
> Debugger entered--entering a function:
> * nnimap-finish-retrieve-group-infos("lifelogs.com"
> (("nnimap+lifelogs.com:INBOX.mail" 3

(etc)

That looks pretty complete.  Big, at least.  :-)

So the correct nnimap functions are called, which should update the
groups.  Hm.  Unless something is very wrong somewhere.

When you get that backtrace, could you peek into the
"*nnimap lifelogs ...*" buffer and see whether the stuff that's there
looks reasonable?

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Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Another data point: `l' hides groups with 0 articles but not these IMAP
> groups, so it knows they have articles.  So it may be just a visual
> update problem.

Hm...  are you using the default `gnus-group-line-format'?

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> Thanks.  So now I can just set nnimap-split-methods to my split-fancy
> function that returns a string?  Or does it take the whole fancy spec?

It takes the entire fancy spec, or your split-fancy function that
returns a string.  But the latter has always worked, I think?

(My mind is slowly shutting down after going through the gnus-bug group
for a few hours...)

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:25:01 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Thanks.  So now I can just set nnimap-split-methods to my split-fancy
>> function that returns a string?  Or does it take the whole fancy spec?

LMI> It takes the entire fancy spec, or your split-fancy function that
LMI> returns a string.  But the latter has always worked, I think?

Yes, just making sure.

Ted

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:13:29 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> Another data point: `l' hides groups with 0 articles but not these IMAP
>> groups, so it knows they have articles.  So it may be just a visual
>> update problem.

LMI> Hm...  are you using the default `gnus-group-line-format'?

No, it's very customized, using SVG.  I'll spare you the full horror,
but basically I do not want to see the actual article counts, just a
visual indicator.

Ted

(setq
 gnus-article-mode-line-format   "Gnus: %~(max-right 23)S%m"
 gnus-topic-line-format "%i[ %u&topic-line; ] %v\n"
 gnus-summary-mode-line-format   "%g [%A=%z] %Z Spam: %h Killed:%E with %s"
 gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%p%P %5uX%B%(%g%)%l %O\n")

;; this corresponds to a topic line format of "%n %A"
(defun gnus-user-format-function-topic-line (dummy)
  (let* ((topic-face (if (zerop total-number-of-articles)
			 'fl-comment-face
		       'fl-function-name-face)))
    (propertize
     (format "%s %s" name 
	     (if (and tzz-ungradients (image-type-available-p 'svg))
		 (tzz-image-from-svg-string 32 28 total-number-of-articles nil)
	       (tzz-summarize-number total-number-of-articles)))
     'face topic-face)))

(defun gnus-user-format-function-X (group)
  "Return \"unseen/unread\".  For use in the group specifier."
  (let* ((unread-number (string-to-number gnus-tmp-number-of-unread))
	 (unseen-number (gnus-number-of-unseen-articles-in-group gnus-tmp-group))
	 (unread (tzz-summarize-number unread-number))
	 (unseen (tzz-summarize-number unseen-number)))
    (if (and tzz-ungradients (image-type-available-p 'svg))
	(tzz-image-from-svg-string 32 28 unread-number unseen-number)
      (if (not (or (string-equal unseen "0")))
	  (format "%010s/%-010s" unseen unread)
	unread))))

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:12:14 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> So the correct nnimap functions are called, which should update the
LMI> groups.  Hm.  Unless something is very wrong somewhere.

LMI> When you get that backtrace, could you peek into the
LMI> "*nnimap lifelogs ...*" buffer and see whether the stuff that's there
LMI> looks reasonable?

It all looks reasonable.

Ted

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> No, it's very customized, using SVG.

Heh.

> (setq
>  gnus-article-mode-line-format   "Gnus: %~(max-right 23)S%m"
>  gnus-topic-line-format "%i[ %u&topic-line; ] %v\n"
>  gnus-summary-mode-line-format   "%g [%A=%z] %Z Spam: %h Killed:%E with %s"
>  gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%p%P %5uX%B%(%g%)%l %O\n")
>
> ;; this corresponds to a topic line format of "%n %A"
> (defun gnus-user-format-function-topic-line (dummy)
>   (let* ((topic-face (if (zerop total-number-of-articles)

This would seem to point towards total-number-of-articles not being set
correctly by...  something.

Could you add a (debug) to this function so we can get a backtrace and
see what function should be binding that variable to something that
should have been updated?  :-)

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Just getting around to retrying this now.
>>
>> I tried to move a bunch of Spam from my Spam folder to my inbox to be
>> reprocessed using B m and get this:
>>
>> ,----
>> | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp t)
>> |   encode-coding-string(t utf-7-imap)
>> |   utf7-encode(t t)
>> | nnimap-request-move-article(1016 "Gnus-Spam" "riley"
> (gnus-request-accept-article "nnimap+riley:INBOX" (quote nil) nil t) nil t)
>
> I'm unable to reproduce this, and I'm not even sure how it can happen.
> The last t there is from `gnus-summary-move-article', and it must only
> be nil or a group name, so this seems rather puzzling.  You're not using
> an old version of gnus-sum.el?

You're quite right as usual ;)

Strange though - I had put a command line switch on to put nognus in
there, but for some reason *some* of the nognus code base was loaded
(nnimap very very fast!) and other elements from the system gnus were
loaded.

  ;; (add-to-list
  ;;  'command-switch-alist
  ;;  '("nognus" . (lambda (&rest ignore)
  ;;                 (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/nognus/lisp")
  ;;                 (load "gnus-load")  ;; Needed if using  nognus.
  ;;                 (message "NoGnus loaded")
  ;;                 (add-to-list 'Info-directory-list
  ;;  "~/builds/gnus/texi/")
  ;;                 (setq email-instance t))))

Well, I just made it more explicit (add to path and gnus-load i my
.emacs )and it now works fine.

Why the above didnt work I'm not sure - something to do with when they
are run I guess - I need to look into it.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Running emacs 23.2 on Debian with nognus from git, If I scroll down the
summary buffer (one window visible) and select an article, a window
appears below the summary listing to display the article body. If I then
hit q to quit the summary list then the window that had opened to show
the selected article remains and another buffer is shown in it - could
be any other file being edited for instance - with the summary list
quitting and now showing the group buffer. The old behaviour was for the
article to close, summary to exit to group and a single window shows the
group list.

Config issue or bug?

thanks

r.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> Config issue or bug?

Sounds like a config issue.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Gijs Hillenius]

On 30 Sep 2010, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

[...]

> OK.  So for the entertainment of future generations, here's my working
> setup.  First of all, the server definition:
>
> (nnimap "lifelogs.com"
> (nnimap-address "imap.lifelogs.com")
> (nnimap-server-port 993)
> (nnimap-logout-timeout 1)
> (nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
> (nnimap-split-methods nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
> (nnimap-stream ssl))
>
> And then the fancy split function:
>
> (defun nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy ()
> (let ((nnmail-split-fancy nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
> (spam-split-group "INBOX.spam"))
> (nnmail-split-fancy)))
>
> (setq nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy '(|
> (: gnus-registry-split-fancy-with-parent)
> (: spam-split 'spam-use-regex-headers)
> ;;; ... boring rules skipped ...
> (: spam-split)
> ;; default mailbox
> "INBOX.mail"))
>
> This seems to work.  Maybe it would be a good example for the manual?


I'm having trouble cleaning up my 'old' split and moving to the new way
of doing things. Noob alert.

First, I'm having this issue:

If I add one of these, or all of these line(s)
	(nnimap-inbox "INBOX")
	(nnimap-expunge t)
	(nnir-search-engine imap)

to either my .gnus or the server definition, or both (?) Gnus at
start-up will doodle for a long time, more than five minutes. The last
thing I see it doing on the server is it accessing a mailbox that is,
eh, 355M and also has ten subfolders. So, I C-g the process. Is this
Cyrus acting up?

Then, I think I can read along with Ted's example, but I wonder about
this particular bit:
 
> (defun nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy ()
> (let ((nnmail-split-fancy nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
> (spam-split-group "INBOX.spam"))
> (nnmail-split-fancy)))

I don't think this particular defun is needed for everyone using
nnmail-split-fancy, or?

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Richard Riley]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Config issue or bug?
>
> Sounds like a config issue.

And was indeed : gnus-use-full-window. Regardless of the setting though
I dont think it should leave a newly created article window open when q
is hit since next time you bring up summary the top group window is then
halved again to show summary and article with the old article window
proudly displaying underneath still showing another "random buffer" and
taking up half the screen.

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Gijs Hillenius]

On  2 Oct 2010, Gijs Hillenius wrote:


[...]

> I'm having trouble cleaning up my 'old' split and moving to the new way
> of doing things. Noob alert.

Turns out, there was a typo in my .gnus. Splitting works like it did
before. 

Sorry for the noise.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 20:47:02 +0200 Gijs Hillenius <gijs@hillenius.net> wrote: 

GH> On 30 Sep 2010, Ted Zlatanov wrote:

GH> Then, I think I can read along with Ted's example, but I wonder about
GH> this particular bit:
 
>> (defun nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy ()
>> (let ((nnmail-split-fancy nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy)
>> (spam-split-group "INBOX.spam"))
>> (nnmail-split-fancy)))

GH> I don't think this particular defun is needed for everyone using
GH> nnmail-split-fancy, or?

You need either a function for fancy splitting or (recently added) the
fancy ruleset as the value of the `nnimap-split-methods' nnimap server
parameter.  If you only split one server, you can set
`nnimap-split-methods' to `nnmail-split-fancy' (the function) and it
will use `nnmail-split-fancy' (the variable).  Yes, ELisp allows both
variable and function with the same name.

Since I have several servers with splitting, I have a function
`nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy' and a variable with the same
name.  The function sets the `nnmail-split-fancy' variable to the value
of the `nnimap-courier-lifelogs-split-fancy' variable and then runs the
`nnmail-split-fancy' function.  It also sets spam-split-group which I
use.

Sorry if this is confusing.  I probably shouldn't have continued with
the tradition of naming the fancy rules AND the function that sets them
the same way.

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Richard Riley <rileyrg@googlemail.com> writes:

> And was indeed : gnus-use-full-window. Regardless of the setting though
> I dont think it should leave a newly created article window open when q
> is hit since next time you bring up summary the top group window is then
> halved again to show summary and article with the old article window
> proudly displaying underneath still showing another "random buffer" and
> taking up half the screen.

I don't think the complicated nil value of gnus-use-full-window has ever
gotten much testing, so it's a candidate for removal...

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andrew Cohen]

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It took longer than I expected but all the required paperwork went to
the FSF on Wednesday, so hopefully this is now taken care of.

Attached is a patch for nnir.el that does a few things:

1. gnus-summary-nnir-goto-thread implementation for imap. I'm finding
   the thread by searching for all articles that are referenced by the
   original article, or reference any of the articles referenced by the
   original article (i.e. I'm being pretty aggressive in finding the
   thread). It seems quite fast, but if it turns out to be too slow it
   is easily changed.

2. Fixes gnus-completing-read (the recent changeover broke things).

3. Cleans up the autoloads and some obsolete comments. One function was
   still loaded from the old imap.el and I thought it might be prudent
   to move this function into nnir.el (imap-quote-specials) so that
   imap.el can just go away. 

Regards,
Andy


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diff --git a/lisp/nnir.el b/lisp/nnir.el
index 3739cb8..4e8a97b 100644
--- a/lisp/nnir.el
+++ b/lisp/nnir.el
@@ -339,6 +339,12 @@
 (eval-when-compile
   (require 'cl))
 
+
+(eval-when-compile
+  (autoload 'nnimap-buffer "nnimap")
+  (autoload 'nnimap-command "nnimap")
+  (autoload 'nnimap-possibly-change-group "nnimap"))
+
 (nnoo-declare nnir)
 (nnoo-define-basics nnir)
 
@@ -346,15 +352,15 @@
 
 (defvar nnir-imap-search-field "TEXT"
   "The IMAP search item when doing an nnir search. To use raw
-  imap queries by default set this to \"\"")
+  imap queries by default set this to \"Imap\"")
 
 (defvar nnir-imap-search-arguments
   '(("Whole message" . "TEXT")
     ("Subject" . "SUBJECT")
     ("To" . "TO")
     ("From" . "FROM")
-    ("Head" . "HEADER \"%s\"")
-    (nil . ""))
+    ("Imap" . "")
+    (nil . "HEADER \"%s\""))
   "Mapping from user readable strings to IMAP search items for use in nnir")
 
 (defvar nnir-imap-search-argument-history ()
@@ -375,9 +381,8 @@ result, `gnus-retrieve-headers' will be called instead.")
              ())
     (imap    nnir-run-imap
              ((criteria
-	       "Search in: "                      ; Prompt
+	       "Search in"                        ; Prompt
 	       ,nnir-imap-search-arguments        ; alist for completing
-	       nil                                ; no filtering
 	       nil                                ; allow any user input
 	       nil                                ; initial value
 	       nnir-imap-search-argument-history  ; the history to use
@@ -703,19 +708,30 @@ and show thread that contains this article."
   (let* ((cur (gnus-summary-article-number))
          (group (nnir-artlist-artitem-group nnir-artlist cur))
          (backend-number (nnir-artlist-artitem-number nnir-artlist cur))
-	 server backend-group)
-    (setq server (nnir-group-server group))
-    (setq backend-group (gnus-group-real-name group))
-    (gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group
-     backend-group
-     (gnus-server-to-method server)
-     t                                  ; activate
-     (cons (current-buffer)
-           'summary)                    ; window config
-     nil
-     (list backend-number))
-    (gnus-summary-limit (list backend-number))
-    (gnus-summary-refer-thread)))
+	 (id (mail-header-id (gnus-summary-article-header)))
+	 (refs (split-string
+		(mail-header-references (gnus-summary-article-header)))))
+    (if (string= (car (gnus-group-method group)) "nnimap")
+	(with-current-buffer (nnimap-buffer)
+	  (let* ((cmd (let ((value
+			     (format
+			      "(OR HEADER REFERENCES %s HEADER Message-Id %s)"
+			      id id)))
+			(dolist (refid refs value)
+			  (setq value (format
+				       "(OR (OR HEADER Message-Id %s HEADER REFERENCES %s) %s)"
+				       refid refid value)))))
+		 (result (nnimap-command
+			  "UID SEARCH %s" cmd)))
+	    (gnus-summary-read-group-1 group t t gnus-summary-buffer nil
+				       (and (car result)
+					    (delete 0 (mapcar #'string-to-number
+							      (cdr (assoc "SEARCH" (cdr result)))))))))
+      (gnus-summary-read-group-1 group t t gnus-summary-buffer
+				 nil (list backend-number))
+      (gnus-summary-limit (list backend-number))
+      (gnus-summary-refer-thread))))
+
 
 (if (fboundp 'eval-after-load)
     (eval-after-load "gnus-sum"
@@ -937,22 +953,9 @@ pairs (also vectors, actually)."
 
 ;; IMAP interface.
 ;; todo:
-;; nnir invokes this two (2) times???!
-;; we should not use nnimap at all but open our own server connection
-;; we should not LIST * but use nnimap-list-pattern from defs
 ;; send queries as literals
 ;; handle errors
 
-(autoload 'nnimap-open-server "nnimap")
-(defvar nnimap-server-buffer) ;; nnimap.el
-(autoload 'imap-mailbox-select "imap")
-(autoload 'imap-search "imap")
-(autoload 'imap-quote-specials "imap")
-
-(eval-when-compile
-  (autoload 'nnimap-buffer "nnimap")
-  (autoload 'nnimap-command "nnimap")
-  (autoload 'nnimap-possibly-change-group "nnimap"))
 
 (defun nnir-run-imap (query srv &optional group-option)
   "Run a search against an IMAP back-end server.
@@ -1045,7 +1048,7 @@ In future the following will be added to the language:
   (cond
    ;; Simple string term
    ((stringp expr)
-    (format "%s \"%s\"" criteria (imap-quote-specials expr)))
+    (format "%s \"%s\"" criteria (nnir-imap-quote-specials expr)))
    ;; Trivial term: and
    ((eq expr 'and) nil)
    ;; Composite term: or expression
@@ -1579,7 +1582,7 @@ Tested with Namazu 2.0.6 on a GNU/Linux system."
   (let ((sym (car parmspec))
         (prompt (cdr parmspec)))
     (if (listp prompt)
-	(let* ((result (gnus-completing-read prompt nil))
+	(let* ((result (apply 'gnus-completing-read prompt))
 	       (mapping (or (assoc result nnir-imap-search-arguments)
 			    (assoc nil nnir-imap-search-arguments))))
 	  (cons sym (format (cdr mapping) result)))
@@ -1693,6 +1696,16 @@ The Gnus backend/server information is added."
             with-dups)
     res))
 
+(defun nnir-imap-quote-specials (string)
+  (with-temp-buffer
+    (insert string)
+    (goto-char (point-min))
+    (while (re-search-forward "[\\\"]" nil t)
+      (forward-char -1)
+      (insert "\\")
+      (forward-char 1))
+    (buffer-string)))
+
 
 ;; The end.
 (provide 'nnir)

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Andrew Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu> writes:

> It took longer than I expected but all the required paperwork went to
> the FSF on Wednesday, so hopefully this is now taken care of.
>
> Attached is a patch for nnir.el that does a few things:

Looks good.  Can you provide a ChangeLog entry, too, and I'll apply it?

> +    (format "%s \"%s\"" criteria (nnir-imap-quote-specials expr)))

The "%S" format spec does this:

(insert (format "%S" "foo\\ bar\" zot"))
-> "foo\\ bar\" zot"

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Andrew Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu>:

> 1. gnus-summary-nnir-goto-thread implementation for imap. I'm finding
>    the thread by searching for all articles that are referenced by the
>    original article, or reference any of the articles referenced by the
>    original article (i.e. I'm being pretty aggressive in finding the
>    thread). It seems quite fast, but if it turns out to be too slow it
>    is easily changed.

Hum... I was thinking that all I actually wanted was "go to article",
but if it is fast, then all the better.  Thread it is! :-)

Re: nnimap issues: split error and initially missing unread articles

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 23:12:27 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> This would seem to point towards total-number-of-articles not being set
LMI> correctly by...  something.

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:58:45 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote: 

LMI> hobbes@poukram.net (Rémi Letot) writes:

>> I started to have this behaviour when I put (nnimap-streaming nil) in my
>> config, but of course I can't tell what would happen without that since
>> g would simply freezes :-)

LMI> If you're using a Courier IMAP server, this may be fixed now.

I see accurate article counts with Courier now.  This has made me really
eager to switch to Dovecot with all its fancy features and Sieve support.

Ted

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andrew Cohen]

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>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

    Lars> Looks good.  Can you provide a ChangeLog entry, too, and I'll
    Lars> apply it?

I've cleaned things up a bit to work better with the
gnus-completing-read changes that Julien has implemented.  Below is a
new patch and a Changelog.

    >> + (format "%s \"%s\"" criteria (nnir-imap-quote-specials expr)))

    Lars> The "%S" format spec does this:

    Lars> (insert (format "%S" "foo\\ bar\" zot")) -> "foo\\ bar\" zot"

I have no idea why the original code didn't use %S, so I've changed it
and eliminated the need for imap-quote-specials.

Regards,
Andy


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diff --git a/lisp/nnir.el b/lisp/nnir.el
index 86acad1..2a264d1 100644
--- a/lisp/nnir.el
+++ b/lisp/nnir.el
@@ -339,23 +339,34 @@
 (eval-when-compile
   (require 'cl))
 
+
+(eval-when-compile
+  (autoload 'nnimap-buffer "nnimap")
+  (autoload 'nnimap-command "nnimap")
+  (autoload 'nnimap-possibly-change-group "nnimap"))
+
 (nnoo-declare nnir)
 (nnoo-define-basics nnir)
 
 (gnus-declare-backend "nnir" 'mail)
 
-(defvar nnir-imap-search-field "TEXT"
-  "The IMAP search item when doing an nnir search. To use raw
-  imap queries by default set this to \"\"")
+(defvar nnir-imap-default-search-key "Whole message"
+  "The default IMAP search key for an nnir search. Must be one of
+  the keys in nnir-imap-search-arguments. To use raw imap queries
+  by default set this to \"Imap\"")
 
 (defvar nnir-imap-search-arguments
   '(("Whole message" . "TEXT")
     ("Subject" . "SUBJECT")
     ("To" . "TO")
     ("From" . "FROM")
-    ("Head" . "HEADER \"%s\"")
-    (nil . ""))
-  "Mapping from user readable strings to IMAP search items for use in nnir")
+    ("Imap" . ""))
+  "Mapping from user readable keys to IMAP search items for use in nnir")
+
+(defvar nnir-imap-search-other "HEADER %S"
+  "The IMAP search item to use for anything other than
+  nnir-imap-search-arguments. By default this is the name of an
+  email header field")
 
 (defvar nnir-imap-search-argument-history ()
   "The history for querying search options in nnir")
@@ -375,12 +386,12 @@ result, `gnus-retrieve-headers' will be called instead.")
              ())
     (imap    nnir-run-imap
              ((criteria
-	       "Search in: "                      ; Prompt
+	       "Search in"                        ; Prompt
 	       ,(mapcar 'car nnir-imap-search-arguments) ; alist for completing
 	       nil                                ; allow any user input
 	       nil                                ; initial value
 	       nnir-imap-search-argument-history  ; the history to use
-	       ,nnir-imap-search-field            ; default
+	       ,nnir-imap-default-search-key      ; default
 	       )))
     (swish++ nnir-run-swish++
              ((group . "Group spec: ")))
@@ -702,19 +713,30 @@ and show thread that contains this article."
   (let* ((cur (gnus-summary-article-number))
          (group (nnir-artlist-artitem-group nnir-artlist cur))
          (backend-number (nnir-artlist-artitem-number nnir-artlist cur))
-	 server backend-group)
-    (setq server (nnir-group-server group))
-    (setq backend-group (gnus-group-real-name group))
-    (gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group
-     backend-group
-     (gnus-server-to-method server)
-     t                                  ; activate
-     (cons (current-buffer)
-           'summary)                    ; window config
-     nil
-     (list backend-number))
-    (gnus-summary-limit (list backend-number))
-    (gnus-summary-refer-thread)))
+	 (id (mail-header-id (gnus-summary-article-header)))
+	 (refs (split-string
+		(mail-header-references (gnus-summary-article-header)))))
+    (if (string= (car (gnus-group-method group)) "nnimap")
+	(with-current-buffer (nnimap-buffer)
+	  (let* ((cmd (let ((value
+			     (format
+			      "(OR HEADER REFERENCES %s HEADER Message-Id %s)"
+			      id id)))
+			(dolist (refid refs value)
+			  (setq value (format
+				       "(OR (OR HEADER Message-Id %s HEADER REFERENCES %s) %s)"
+				       refid refid value)))))
+		 (result (nnimap-command
+			  "UID SEARCH %s" cmd)))
+	    (gnus-summary-read-group-1 group t t gnus-summary-buffer nil
+				       (and (car result)
+					    (delete 0 (mapcar #'string-to-number
+							      (cdr (assoc "SEARCH" (cdr result)))))))))
+      (gnus-summary-read-group-1 group t t gnus-summary-buffer
+				 nil (list backend-number))
+      (gnus-summary-limit (list backend-number))
+      (gnus-summary-refer-thread))))
+
 
 (if (fboundp 'eval-after-load)
     (eval-after-load "gnus-sum"
@@ -936,22 +958,9 @@ pairs (also vectors, actually)."
 
 ;; IMAP interface.
 ;; todo:
-;; nnir invokes this two (2) times???!
-;; we should not use nnimap at all but open our own server connection
-;; we should not LIST * but use nnimap-list-pattern from defs
 ;; send queries as literals
 ;; handle errors
 
-(autoload 'nnimap-open-server "nnimap")
-(defvar nnimap-server-buffer) ;; nnimap.el
-(autoload 'imap-mailbox-select "imap")
-(autoload 'imap-search "imap")
-(autoload 'imap-quote-specials "imap")
-
-(eval-when-compile
-  (autoload 'nnimap-buffer "nnimap")
-  (autoload 'nnimap-command "nnimap")
-  (autoload 'nnimap-possibly-change-group "nnimap"))
 
 (defun nnir-run-imap (query srv &optional group-option)
   "Run a search against an IMAP back-end server.
@@ -963,7 +972,8 @@ details on the language and supported extensions"
 	  (group (or group-option (gnus-group-group-name)))
 	  (defs (caddr (gnus-server-to-method srv)))
 	  (criteria (or (cdr (assq 'criteria query))
-			nnir-imap-search-field))
+			(cdr (assoc nnir-imap-default-search-key
+				    nnir-imap-search-arguments))))
 	  (gnus-inhibit-demon t)
 	  artlist)
       (message "Opening server %s" server)
@@ -1044,7 +1054,7 @@ In future the following will be added to the language:
   (cond
    ;; Simple string term
    ((stringp expr)
-    (format "%s \"%s\"" criteria (imap-quote-specials expr)))
+    (format "%s %S" criteria expr))
    ;; Trivial term: and
    ((eq expr 'and) nil)
    ;; Composite term: or expression
@@ -1580,7 +1590,7 @@ Tested with Namazu 2.0.6 on a GNU/Linux system."
     (if (listp prompt)
 	(let* ((result (apply 'gnus-completing-read prompt))
 	       (mapping (or (assoc result nnir-imap-search-arguments)
-			    (assoc nil nnir-imap-search-arguments))))
+			    (cons nil nnir-imap-search-other))))
 	  (cons sym (format (cdr mapping) result)))
       (cons sym (read-string prompt)))))
 

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diff --git a/lisp/ChangeLog b/lisp/ChangeLog
index bae698a..bb4dee7 100644
--- a/lisp/ChangeLog
+++ b/lisp/ChangeLog
@@ -1,3 +1,13 @@
+2010-10-10  Andrew Cohen  <cohen@andy.bu.edu>
+
+	* nnir.el (autoload): Clean up autoloads.
+	(nnir-imap-default-search-key): Renamed from
+	nnir-imap-search-field. Use key rather than value.
+	(nnir-imap-search-other): New variable.
+	(nnir-read-parm): Use it.
+	(nnir-imap-expr-to-imap): Use %S rather than imap-quote-specials.
+	(gnus-summary-nnir-goto-thread): Modify to work with imap.
+
 2010-10-09  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen  <larsi@gnus.org>
 
 	* spam.el (gnus-summary-mode-map): Bind to "$".  Suggested by Russ

Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Andrew Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu> writes:

> I've cleaned things up a bit to work better with the
> gnus-completing-read changes that Julien has implemented.  Below is a
> new patch and a Changelog.

Thanks; applied.

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Re: Any juicy outstanding Gnus bugs?

[Andreas Schwab]

Andrew Cohen <cohen@andy.bu.edu> writes:

> I have no idea why the original code didn't use %S

Perhaps because Lisp quoting may not always do the right thing.

Andreas.

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